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Half Rolls Tampered With. Pictures Included. I'm Dumbfounded.

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 Posted 04/17/2018  06:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aristarchus123 to your friends list
I understand the frustration. I don't think the bank is doing anything wrong. Non-machine wrapped paper wrappers are acceptable at banks. So, open machine-wrapped rolls are also acceptable. I do nickels and cents, and I'll get 1) boxes of new coins (e.g., all 2016) or 2) entirely searched coins (no wheat cents, no coins prior to 1960), etc. I don't blame the bank. Luck of the draw. Frustrating? Absolutely.
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 Posted 04/17/2018  07:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list

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Is your theory that the person rerolling them, is using the same paper (original machine wrapping) and returning them to my bank, then my bank is sealing the box back up to look original?

The bank isn't trying to trick anyone, they're just sealing it to keep the rolls in.


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They know what I do with the coins, and they have said that I am the only one doing it (CRHing halves).

It's not unlikely that someone else is hunting elsewhere and using your bank as their dumping grounds.
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 Posted 04/17/2018  08:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
Dump boxes. Insures silver is pulled. Often done at locations which do a lot of change business, such as a car wash.

But with halves you are getting already cleaned dump.
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 Posted 04/17/2018  08:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scstrawn to your friends list
I'm betting they are putting the old rolls in a new box at the supplier, not at the bank.
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 Posted 04/17/2018  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add briton to your friends list

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I'm betting they are putting the old rolls in a new box at the supplier, not at the bank.


That's the theory I was thinking. But it is still weird that these bad boxes have all the same characteristics, including bad paper rolling and the same black marker streaks on the edge. I mean like 80-90% of the rolls have one or more of these black marker marks on the edges. And the wrappers happen to be shotty in these boxes....

The Majority of boxes I get have nice tight rolled papers and I don't see many markers on the sides of the coins. But I am getting to the point that I can identify these weird boxes right when I open the box I see loose rolls. So I open a few rolls and find the black marks on the edges within minutes.
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04/17/2018 09:51 am
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 Posted 04/17/2018  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ace_ftw to your friends list
Briton, first off, this is most likely not re-rolled by a customer, but you most obviously received someone's dump. Most likely they dumped at a machine and then it was taken to a 3rd party supplier and rolled.

I have received machine rolled coin in wrapper that look just like that, loose, edges not properly rolled in etc. I imagine it was an issue with the machine or perhaps a novice with the machine on a given day.

Because the marks on the coins are not straight across the coins were put into the wrappers after they were marked and had shuffled around, like is a bag.

You received someone's dump, we all have this issue, the only thing to do is put on the big boy pants and move onto the next box.



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 Posted 04/17/2018  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jason39305 to your friends list
This happened to me on my first ever box of halves. I was super excited to search and when I opened the box, that was sealed, all the rolls were loose on one end and every half had a black mark on it. No silver. It was obvious someone had searched the box and returned it. But I too was confused as to why it was sealed.
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 Posted 04/17/2018  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cabowabo to your friends list
That is lousy briton. I think it is part of the cost of doing busines. I once picked up 3 boxes of sealed halves and someone wrote on the boxes "No Silver". I did't even want to open them. I did and all boxes were skunks. All the rolls were wrapped tight. I just wondered who wrote on those rolls and knew there was no silver.
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 Posted 04/17/2018  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Action321 to your friends list
sorry about that :P before you buy a box you should be allowed to look at the rolls
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 Posted 04/17/2018  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list

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sorry about that :P before you buy a box you should be allowed to look at the rolls
And then what. You don't want the box? Fastest way to get cut off from ordering.
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 Posted 04/17/2018  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Action321 to your friends list
i dont know lol its just an idea!
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 Posted 04/17/2018  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list
@Action - hey no problem here, welcome. Not picking on you.
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 Posted 04/17/2018  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
When I used to roll search, I did not mind getting the returned rolls that had been searched b/c I would still find the DDOs, DDRs, no FGs, RPMs etc.

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 Posted 05/05/2018  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
On those rare occasions I search a box I put the reject coins back in the original rolls and tuck the edges of the paper back in over the top coin. Looks almost as tight as the original roll, certainly better than what your photos show. Seems like you have a bulk searcher in your area who is sloppy about repackaging.
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 Posted 05/07/2018  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add accordselux to your friends list
What general area are you in? What supplier are you picking up and dumping from? That can answer the question of where they're coming from
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