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I don't think it's supposed to be anyone or anything the way we normally consider.. It's a tiny Escheresque imprint is what it is.. Reminds me of what one piece out of an 1,000 piece jigsaw puzzle of "Ascending and Descending" would look like -- the 'endless staircase' lithograph by M.C. Escher.. And that's it..
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Looks similar to the insignia for the 2nd SS Panzer Division Das Reich.
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What I failed to properly verbalize previously is how as you circumvent this counterstamp following any given 'level' it seemingly changes from "top" to "bottom" if you will, or visually "incuse" to "protruding," even though no portion of the stamp is taller than the field proper..
This is the same design principle used to make the staircases appear to change from going up to going down in "Ascending and Descending" by Escher, not this counterstamp looks like any portion of said lithograph..
It's how any given surface appears to change from incuse to protruding as it's followed around is what this counterstamp is all about..
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I see what you're saying there Swamp. Clever.
Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection: http://goccf.com/t/303507
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Just a thought -- a die maker may have created this as a test piece to test whether or not s/he could make sharp right angles and a perfect oval. 
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The M.C. Escher thing is interesting but I don't see it as intentional. Your brain has a tendency to flip incuse versus raised with images on a screen, like with black and white pictures of moon craters, etc. I'm not sure that you'd see the same effect with the coin in hand.
I'm still curious where all the metal goes with a stamp this deep. Is it out the back and that's why the reverse is so damaged in that area? Is the coin humped out on the reverse?
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 Very clever of whoever made the die for sure..! Glad you now see it too.. I'm happy you have coin in hand, because I'm still trying to figure out where all the levels are cut (as on which side of some of the faces,) whether the maker somehow added darkener in places, did some rewelding to add surface back onto his die and where all the bevel points are..? Swamp
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The coin is almost 20 mm at its narrowest and over 20 at its widest. That much metal displaced actually made the coin bigger in all directions.
Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection: http://goccf.com/t/303507
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Quote: The M.C. Escher thing is interesting but I don't see it as intentional. Nice to see another thinking man..  However, I absolutely see it as intentional.. Why else take the time to make a die in such a manner if not for that reason..? Swamp
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Quote: The coin is almost 20 mm at its narrowest and over 20 at its widest. That much metal displaced actually made the coin bigger in all directions. Thank you for that info.. Swamp
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Quote: Just a thought -- a die maker may have created this as a test piece to test whether or not s/he could make sharp right angles and a perfect oval. For the individual I suppose that is a possibility, since we know the tools exist to make the angles and half-ovals.. However, the maker taking the time to get the angles correct to create this illusion suggest otherwise.. Swamp
Edited by da Swampster 05/16/2018 1:51 pm
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I'd expect something more deliberately Escher-esque if that was the intention, like a fish becoming a duck. All I see is a stylized Z or N through an oval, someone's company logo or just an idea for a cool design.
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yang =========================== twain ============================ yin
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