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Coins One Would Think Would Be Easy To Find, But Not.

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 Posted 06/22/2018  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list
Hmmm try finding 2003 Lincoln or any War Nickels in circulation. They are out there but rare.
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 Posted 06/22/2018  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Back in 2008 when the economy crashed a great many people were forced by their circumstances to "cash in" the change jars and other hoards of coins. This resulted in a glut of coinage at the Federal Reserve and there was very little need for any additional new coinage. Nickel and dime production was curtailed completely very early in the year, and the production of the cents and quarters were cut way back. (They probably would have stopped those completely as well but they had the problem that the quarters were the last year of the state/territory quarters, and the cents were the special one year only Lincoln bicentennial designs so they pretty much HAD to continue striking those.)

So all the coins that year, but especially the nickels and dimes, had unusually low mintages and they were pretty much all scooped up by hoarders hoping the low mintage would translate into a windfall some day. This means the coins will almost always be very common in MS condition, but will be scarce in actual circulation.

2005 Buffalo nickels are also a little harder to find, but they are available (except in my area). They are a little tougher than the mintage says they should be, because of once again serious hoarding. Almost 10% of the entire mintage was sold by the mint directly to collectors in rolls and bags, and many more people hoarded the ones they found in circulation. I don't know why the Buffalo nickel is so popular but it is.

You can also add to the list any half dollars after 2001 and any Sac dollars 2001 - 2008, all NA dollars after 2012, and all Presidential dollars after 2012. None of those were issued for circulation, but they do show up sometimes.
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06/22/2018 1:10 pm
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 Posted 06/22/2018  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list
Hello Meow! - I find the same phenomenon with UK coins: there are some that one would expect to be common in circulation that aren't.

I've checked through 4,240 British 50 pence coins over the past few months. When I hit 5,000 I will post the results on the Forum.

The mintage figures for the following three 'semi-key' coins are:

2008 Britannia reverse - 3,500,000
2011 Archery (Olympics) - 3,345,500
2016 Beatrix Potter Squirrel Nutkin - 5,000,000

You would expect me to have found around the same number of the 2008 Britannia and 2011 Archery coins, and a few more of the Squirrel Nutkin ones, especially as they've been in circulation for a shorter period and logically fewer will have been lost or withdrawn.

Well, here are the actual numbers of each coin I've found so far:

2008 Britannia reverse - 26
2011 Archery (Olympics) - 3
2016 Beatrix Potter Squirrel Nutkin - 4

Obviously the Olympics Archery and Squirrel Nutkin coins are being extensively hoarded as they have special designs, and dealers have probably taken large numbers out of circulation and made them up into sets. Although the 2008 Britannia 50p is scarce, it's not being hoarded by the general public as it's seen as just an ordinary 50p.

I imagine the same is true about the 2009 cents and quarters - they form part of sets that are unique to that year.
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 Posted 06/22/2018  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeowtheKitty to your friends list
"Your options are limited there. Meow needs to come to the mainland and search, increase your chances x49."


Well,..............Cats cant swim.


But thank you all for your input, Meow will be keeping an extra cats eye out for those tough issues.
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 Posted 06/22/2018  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeowtheKitty to your friends list
"Beatrix Potter Squirrel Nutkin "

Meow is not sure who that is, and what she has accomplished; But Meow has a sudden urge to want to chase her up a tree.

And thanks for your input. Cats find coins fun.
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 Posted 06/22/2018  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list

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Meow is not sure who that is, and what she has accomplished; But Meow has a sudden urge to want to chase her up a tree.

See here!
https://www.westminstercollection.c...-series.aspx
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06/22/2018 4:51 pm
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 Posted 06/22/2018  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mtuma3 to your friends list
In the future, the 2009-D Roosevelt dime will be the "Key" to the Clad (1965+) set.
Other than the 1996 W in the Mint sets, it had the lowest mintage, about 49.5 million, compared to 1/2 - 1 billion or more produced most other years.
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 Posted 06/22/2018  5:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list
Since 2009, I've found a couple of 2009 cents in circulation, but no other 2009 coins. It's a very odd feeling, not to be able to fill up modern holes.
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 Posted 06/22/2018  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malgal to your friends list
I have searched many nickels and found not any 2009 but have found a few 2009 dimes.
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 Posted 06/22/2018  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list
There are lots of dates that are getting tough in circulation. Something like a '69-D quarter or a '71-S cent are getting few and far between. Nearly two thirds of the mintage of '69 quarters are now lost through attrition and about 80% of the '71 cents. Then add in the fact that more and more people are putting together circulation sets and finding nice attractive examples that aren't cull or heavily worn can be pretty difficult.

There are numerous varieties which are exceedingly difficult to find.
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 Posted 06/22/2018  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list

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Back in 2008 when the economy crashed a great many people were forced by their circumstances to "cash in" the change jars and other hoards of coins. This resulted in a glut of coinage at the Federal Reserve and there was very little need for any additional new coinage. Nickel and dime production was curtailed completely very early in the year, and the production of the cents and quarters were cut way back. (They probably would have stopped those completely as well but they had the problem that the quarters were the last year of the state/territory quarters, and the cents were the special one year only Lincoln bicentennial designs so they pretty much HAD to continue striking those.)

So all the coins that year, but especially the nickels and dimes, had unusually low mintages and they were pretty much all scooped up by hoarders hoping the low mintage would translate into a windfall some day. This means the coins will almost always be very common in MS condition, but will be scarce in actual circulation.

2005 Buffalo nickels are also a little harder to find, but they are available (except in my area). They are a little tougher than the mintage says they should be, because of once again serious hoarding. Almost 10% of the entire mintage was sold by the mint directly to collectors in rolls and bags, and many more people hoarded the ones they found in circulation. I don't know why the Buffalo nickel is so popular but it is.

You can also add to the list any half dollars after 2001 and any Sac dollars 2001 - 2008, all NA dollars after 2012, and all Presidential dollars after 2012. None of those were issued for circulation, but they do show up sometimes.


I knew that the economy crashed, but I didn't know that people were forced into cashing in their change. I also didn't know that the U.S. Mint didn't mint much coins that year. It's a new fact that I've learned on CCF. Thank you for sharing this information!
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 Posted 06/23/2018  11:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
Yup, search the forum for Great Coin Jar Dump 2008 to see where it has been discussed before.
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 Posted 06/23/2018  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list
Mentioned already is the 2009 coins and the reasons why. And again, been discussed many times before is the fact of "location, location, location" play a major role in certain lacks of individual dates or mintmarks being found. East coast/West coast problems of lack of the other sides minted coins, then toss in the factor of actual Fed region releases per demand of individual banks as to their respective need of coinage...there are lacks all over for certain coins that make it seem like they are low mintages, but not really.
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 Posted 06/25/2018  07:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeowtheKitty to your friends list
Thank you all for your input. Those UK coins sure are cute. When will we in the USA have coins like that? Meow would love to see a Bugs Bunny or Sylvester the putty Cat coin in circulation. Meow has seen graded Franklin halfs called Bugs Bunny, but it just isn't the same. Ben Franklin does not even have a carrot in his hand, or mouth; In those die clashed halfs.
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 Posted 06/25/2018  07:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeowtheKitty to your friends list
Oh yea, just to put it out there. Meow found Meow's SECOND 1968 d/d RPM penny today. Meow found the first one last week. Who knew coin collecting would be so fun for Cats? Meow wishes Meow started doing it so 20 years ago, then at least Meow would have many nice older AU/BU coins at face value. Meow has found an odd fairly old AU coin once and a while during coin roll hunting.
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