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1959 Penny. This Has Got To Be DDO?

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 Posted 01/11/2019  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
Tamless theres more about your coin you should know. I brought some of your images over to my program. there is 4 individual strikes on this coin with a shift counter clockwise. check the denticle. if you want to know more send me a couple of as large a photos as you can. I will show you what I mean. the coin shifted between the sec and third strike. look at the rim on your coin it is thick and thin. that also identify the shift. hope this helps
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 Posted 01/11/2019  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robmck1967 to your friends list
I don't know Rocky...you're saying that this was struck 4 times? I'm not an expert but I'm leaning to MD. There is a definite rim clip including blakesley effect (weakness in the rim opposite the rim clip).
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 Posted 01/11/2019  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list
Not a chance this coin was struck 4 times,,,i will defer to @spp to clear this up for you..
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 Posted 01/11/2019  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tamless to your friends list

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I've added more photos... I hope this helps! Thanks again guys!
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 Posted 01/11/2019  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list
Nice shot of the edge. You can really picture the metal trying to fill the void the clip left during the strike, but coming up just short.

with @silverwolf that this coin was not struck four times.
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 Posted 01/12/2019  06:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
Under enough magnification, any coin can be guessed to be struck multiple times. This is a mechanical process with built-in tolerances/allowances that are less than exactly 100% precise. No mechanical process can be perfect to build common everyday items, be it coins or nails or bottlecaps or bobbypins.
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 Posted 01/12/2019  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oldmike to your friends list
rocky, all due respect, but where do you come up with this stuff
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 Posted 01/12/2019  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robmck1967 to your friends list
the edge shot shows the clip to be a ragged clip (or flawed planchet if you prefer). makes it better than a standard rim clip. cool.
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 Posted 01/12/2019  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
yes I agree this is Mechanical Doubling. but think about this, that coin went through a second full strike cycle. I would like to have that coin on my stacker. all I need is 30 minutes. the Mechanical Doubling took place when the coin shifted. tamless you are doing very well. your focus of the coin in your photos is incredible. when you get going at this coin collecting. you need to think about checking at high mag. I can tell you are going to do very well at this. tamless if you would consider this. I will do a stack of your coin. you see it all. this would also show you how far one can go with high mag. if your interested pm me.
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 Posted 01/12/2019  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
I see no evidence of this coin being struck more than once... the one strike that occurred, was on a flawed planchet, with light Machine Doubling occurring on the strike.
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 Posted 01/12/2019  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tamless to your friends list
Thank you Rocky, I appreciate that. There is definitely a lot to learn...I'm super intrigued with error coins!! I am unable to send email to you as it says you don't accept them.
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 Posted 01/12/2019  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
There was like 90 million pennies struck this year, in 1959 my guess the presses were able to strike at 200 or more a minute so as a die wears eventually some minor doubling will occur and if you higher mag any coin you will see these minor doubling, the most important thing about this coin is the planchet flaw.
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 Posted 01/13/2019  12:21 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list

Quote:
yes I agree this is Mechanical Doubling. but think about this, that coin went through a second full strike cycle... the Mechanical Doubling took place when the coin shifted.


MD is the result of die movement during a single strike cycle:

http://www.error-ref.com/machine-doubling/
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 Posted 01/13/2019  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
spruett001 D is the result of die movement during a single strike cycle:
i agree with you completely I worked at the images last night I think I know what happen. I think the die is doubled itself. the strike is a single strike. because that would be the only way the die shows a multi strikes. I measured the the die strikes they are identical. the ditance on the 2 die patterns measure exact. so the die would have to be doubled. so that also would proved it was a single strike. so with that said, there is a 1959 double die out there. I know I am going to start looking for it. have a great one
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 Posted 01/13/2019  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
" Machine Doubling" is really not a "striking" error. In the nanosecond just after the die strikes the planchet, the die or the mechanism that holds the die slightly moves (usually slightly rotates one way or the other)as the die is pulling away from the planchet. The die itself is not doubled on this coin. There are many ways that a so-called "doubled" image can appear on a coin. Here are a few:
http://doubleddie.com/144801.html
http://doubleddie.com/144822.html
http://doubleddie.com/144843.html
http://doubleddie.com/58222.html
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