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1883-O Morgan, Wicked Die Cracks, Toning, You Vs. PCGS

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 Posted 05/27/2019  10:14 am  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
Solid MS-65, beautiful toning!
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 Posted 05/27/2019  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Keith67 to your friends list
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 Posted 05/27/2019  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cboyera to your friends list
I bet the older rattler said 64.

I love the toning and amazing crack though! I struggle with these, while I know NO is famous for its weak strikes, in the strictest sense of grade, how can a weak strike be a gem? That being said, I would say it is a gem (65+) because we know better, but still not 100% comfortable saying so...
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 Posted 05/27/2019  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list
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 Posted 05/27/2019  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
I'm at MS65 in an older slab, MS66 at todays' standards. A marvelous example of what would appear to be a terminal die state and yet the mint cranked out numerous (pronounced hundreds possibly thousands of) examples. What's not to love about 18830-O die pairings....
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 Posted 05/27/2019  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list
I'm at MS-65 on this one, but I wouldn't be surprised if PCGS saw it as a 64 back in the day.
The 2 contact mark's slightly below and to the left of liberty's eyes hold it back from a 66 (prime focal area), but in hand may not be as prominent as the images portray.
Nice coin, worthy of a visit to cac.
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 Posted 05/28/2019  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
I think I did pretty good on this one!

PCGS Rattler grade: MS64.

I think it might have a shot at a bean but I have never submitted anything to CAC.

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 Posted 05/28/2019  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Seriously undergraded by today's standards. Really.
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 Posted 05/29/2019  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
This one should bean...Gold at that....
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 Posted 05/29/2019  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
very pretty. toning premium > grade adjustment premium imho.
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 Posted 05/29/2019  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list
Paralyze, this one is deserving of a cac review. From what I can see from the images, green bean for sure with a real shot at a gold one. Absolutely worth the trip, as a gold beaned rattler would be a home run. While it doesn't change the coin, it certainly changes its value. Awesome pickup!
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 Posted 05/29/2019  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Have you resubmitted this?
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 Posted 05/29/2019  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
I have not. It should be here or tomorrow. I am really starting to try to sell off some "problem" coins and pick up higher quality pieces, which is why I've been buying more Bust halves and quarters lately and early copper. This coin was kind of an outsider (I'm trying to downsize Morgans, not add to them) but couldn't resist.

I was going to submit a whole mess of coins to PCGS at the upcoming TNA show (May 31-June 1) but that falls on business end-of-month and I can't miss work to attend a coin show. I have surgery coming up on June 10th and once I recover from that I will try to get it sent off to PCGS but I am not sure it justifies a resubmit with the rattler premium on a pretty but common-date Morgan.

If it came back as a 65 or 65 CAC I'd probably be up about 3-3.5x what I spent on it, a 66 is not gonna happen IMO as PCGS and NGC are really tightening up grading the last few months. I'm not a CAC member and can't submit coins to them so I'd have to go over to Frisco and let Lucas send it off for me from his shop.
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 Posted 05/29/2019  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list
If the coin looks as strong in hand as the images portray, a 64 in a rattler with a gold bean is far rarer and thus more valuable than the same coin graded 65 with a green bean.
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 Posted 05/30/2019  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
Got it in hand today, it's really strong and IMO an easy 65. There are a couple of distracting marks on the reverse but the obverse is nearly flawless.
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