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Germany
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I am going lower on this one. I see wear on the high points on both obverse and reverse rather than a weak strike. Eye appeal is relatively low to me - the planchet looks slightly rough and pebbly and the colour is not appealing. You can find 1812's with a better planchet. Low AU to EF45 is my opinion.
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United States
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Caution - amateur evaluator on deck.
Wow. Interesting item. I'm guessing that it spent some time in an old rattler - thus the rim color. Also, looks MAD reverse. I'll guess 62/63. But, high AU wouldn't surprise me.
"Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Regardless of any minor problems it's still a very desirable type coin.
The field to the left of the bust on the obverse is one of the best checks to decide AU versus MS. That typically porous area on this coin can't be reliably used for that determination.
As for actual value this is a Coin to fight for. I'm still seeing enough separation on the hair to believe this has circulated.
AU-58. Eye Appeal 6/10.
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the planchet looks slightly rough and pebbly and the colour is not appealing. You can find 1812's with a better planchet. Low AU to EF45 is my opinion. Could you post an example a low AU or EF45 1812 Large date with a nice planchet, nice color and eye appeal? I understand not liking dark coins as I am also not fond of dark coins, but I really dislike color on copper that is not original. |
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Germany
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This is an example of an 1812 with good surfaces and strictly original, pleasant colour. Admittedly, it is certainly not in the same state of preservation as the S-288 above, but imagine what this S-289 must have looked like before it wore down to this level. Good surfaces and original, pleasant colour in 1812 coppers does exist. There are not many, but they are out there. Slider23, I apologise if you thought I was disparaging the coin - specially if this is your example. That was really not my intention. It is a nice example of a difficult type,   Edited by GERMANICVS
08/24/2019 06:04 am
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Germany
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So what about that error? shouldn't that bump up the value of such an early coin?
Edited by KaiserSoze
08/24/2019 06:06 am
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United States
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The original post photos were taken by PCGS, and the same coin's photos are on Coin Facts under 1812 Large Date. I purchased the coin a week ago, and I thought it was a higher grade 55/58 than PCGS graded the coin. The coin has luster much like a MS coin. It looks the same in hand as shown in the images and a little dark for my taste, but I wanted an original coin. I have been looking over a year for a nice Classic Head. For me it was by far the toughest quality example in my budget to find of any coin that I have collected.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Okay, so I'm lousy at grading these, but surely this is better than a 50!
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 Crack her out! Crack her out! |
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United States
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My intial grade was AU 58. Think it is much stronger than a 50. Good eye and good buy! |
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United States
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Just a crime. And they got paid for it.  |
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United States
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Frog, maybe this one will make you feel a little better about your grading skills. This series has lots of coins with inconsistent grading. The following coin is a 1812 AU 50 Large Date by NGC   Below is the reverse of a straight graded AU 58 NGC 1812 Small Date and this one could be your for only $9750.00:  |
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Posted 08/23/2019 1:12 pm
