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Not FS...step right above "C" looks crushed
Coop, I'll go with D
Edited by Greasy Fingers
08/31/2019 11:16 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Well you found one of them.
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Pillar of the Community
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More than one, well how about B ?
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This why I did not choose D:  Why does not this section DQ this example D from being a FS. Neither can I find the other FS example . |
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I would have said none also , maybe I'm too picky or eyes not very good anymore .  |
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'F'' is a normal one. In a few more minutes I'll reveal what I feel they grade on, that most collectors don't realize on these.
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If you look on the CoinFacts app there are some very surprising full steps!
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When I've looked at these through the years, the certified ones on the PCGS, I disagreed with them about 100% of the time. Then I started to look deeper at them. I always considered the treads as the disqualifying point. But realized they were grading according to the risers, and not the treads. (I know what is a tread and a riser. When you look at a stairway, the treads are the step you food stands on to help you climb the stairs. A riser is what holds the treads in place. So when you look at the nickel reverse, the treads are the raised lines on the steps, and the risers are the incuse areas on the steps. So looking at the possibility that the risers were what they were grading by, not the treads:   So unlike the Full split bands, which were easy to figure out, these full steps were a mystery until I figured out what I was missing on them. To me they are not all that interesting. But always good to know what is really going on.  Here is the larger images of the graded full steps from PCGS. (But not that I agree with them either) Just what I see most of the time, they are grading by the risers and not the treads/steps. Edited by coop
09/01/2019 3:47 pm
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Nice presentation, coop. I was into full steppers until I started seeing coins, mostly from the 1950s, that had full steps but am ugly, weak strike elsewhere. Now instead I favor for a nice EDS, overally strong strike regardless of how many steps are complete. As it turns out usually such coins will have most steps (or risers) visible anyhow since that comes naturally as part of a good strike.
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I guess I would rather collect something that is reality, rather than speculative. So I prefer die varieties.
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If this is applicable, what proof coins are the most collectible years and why?
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I prefer the proof coins before the 1971 era. I don't like the look of the cameo on the post 1971 coins. I like the smoother cameos, not the rough looking ones that reminds me of shredded wheat. Also the spagetti hair on the Washington quarters. The frosting on the newer cameos, hides doubled die so much, you can miss them or not be impressed with them. |
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...surprising full steps. To say the least and as an illustrative example I would have never submitted this 1968-S 66 FS to the TPG seeing this following photo of its steps:  One can find this disturbing example below and recall how many times an expensive one fell through the cracks only because the perceived difference between that of 'what it is' vs 'what it should be' is not clearly understood at all. This FS sold for only $ 3737. :( https://coins.ha.com/itm/jefferson-...itage-081514I would like an explanation as to why this example passed the criteria to be a FS. And have the rules changed over time in terms of allowing a FS designation? Edited by mdpmedia
09/01/2019 10:49 pm
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mdpmedia, I can't imagine the lower right on those steps ever qualifying as full, unless the steps show better in different light
others will disagree, but IMO small hits on the steps do not disqualify a coin from full steps since the hits came after the coin was struck, and steps are counted as a measure of strike quality
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