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Pillar of the Community
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IF it's a clash mark, then the die had to be rotated 90° when they struck, but it's possible. I did an overlay of the 2 images and rotated the reverse. It does match up with the top edge of the monument.
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Pillar of the Community
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What is that on the back of his head...hair gel?...  |
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Pillar of the Community
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ok here are closeups of the clash? behind Lincoln's head. can't make out exactly but looks like one of the bays from the memorial. what do you guys think and any opinions on the pics of the EPU, I see very elongated dots and notching on the devices? Click Pictures To Enlarge  Edited by CoinTheTerm
10/09/2019 11:40 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Looks like remnants of a Die Clash.
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
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It might be a gouge or die damage. A clash would show the horizontal base line. But as already mentioned, it can't be that as it is 90 degrees off and no other clash is not present. Die polishing would not leave an abrupt end like on this coin . Thus my first diagnosis.
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Pillar of the Community
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Coop what do you think about the EPU?
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Pillar of the Community
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It's always that first dot between the E and P that gets me to..but no spliting on the devices(letters) make me toss them
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Pillar of the Community
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thanks Greasy and usually I do also but this one either has some notching or some well placed scratches. click on the picture in the OP and take a good look starting at the E
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Bedrock of the Community
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Note all the devices on the reverse are reduced in size, so the die was worked over reducing the fields, also reducing all the devices removing the widest part of the devices base. Thus that is what has happened to this die.
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On EPU,I see that a lot that year. John1  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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The reason why? There were a lot of die clashes on the 1983-1985 cents. Thus they were over polished, a lot. Over polishing reduces the fields and reduced the height of the devices making them look thinner is size.
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What about the elongated first dot? John1 |
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Pillar of the Community
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The first dot could be a blister or Die Deterioration causing the distortion. I was thinking the raised area behind Lincoln's head might be from the left planter on the stairs but because it is raised would that mean it is a counter clash if it is the planter? A counter clash could also explain it being higher and out of normal alignment. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
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10/11/2019 06:03 am
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