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1955 S Lincoln Wheat Cent - Cud, Interior Die Break And RIDB - MS

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 Posted 11/17/2019  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Why does it look like a Rebel hat?
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(Edited image. The original was black and white)
I can't figure this one out with the devices so deep under the area in question. It seems to me if it were a die issue, the letters would be the first to go?
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 Posted 11/17/2019  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list
Neat to hear about the first discovery of 100 or so.

I wonder if that group showed any progression of it getting worse or any variance in the examples?
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 Posted 11/17/2019  10:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
I found one of these about 10 years ago. I'll dig it out and see if it is an exact match as to yours. Cool find!
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 Posted 11/18/2019  06:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list
I'll let him know! Great score!
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 Posted 11/18/2019  08:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add beachnut to your friends list
Very cool. I've never seen this before either. I've been looking at this since last night.
TB can you explain to me how this happened? With a die break I would think GOD WE would have broken off. Could a piece of the die have peeled off? I'm just trying to figure this one out. Thanks.
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 Posted 11/18/2019  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Nice one, Batman.
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 Posted 11/18/2019  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Willburton to your friends list
Yes very cool coin. I never find anything notable in rolls. I've quit buying them for now but it's getting close to Christmas I could splurge!
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 Posted 11/18/2019  10:33 am  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list
beechnut,

I am afraid I am not the one to really explain exactly how this occurs, but I can show you some examples.

Most common in 1955, for whatever reason there is set of die breaks that occur on the upper skull area of Lincoln. Not just the very common "cracked skull" stuff, but die breaks. They vary from pretty minor, to the one above which is the most extreme I know of.

In general, they start with a die crack more or less horizontal across the hair (super common), and then progress with a die crack working in an arc above it. At some point the arc closes and you have a closed crack loop, and with enough time this becomes a retained interior die break.

The next part of the sequence, which can occur anywhere along the time line, is that an interior die break (loss of the piece of the die) forms along or in relationship to the horizontal original die crack.

The end result after both of these things happen is a sort of beanie for Lincoln with a bulge across the bottom where the lost die is.

I don't collect these but sometimes pull them out to give to a friend who does. I have two here in a roll and took some photos for examples. Both are 1955-P, again the most common year for this.

Hope this helps a little.


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 Posted 11/18/2019  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add beachnut to your friends list
I understand a die break. I guess I'm also wondering how the area is textured as well. Thanks.
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 Posted 11/18/2019  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BarlowAdams to your friends list
Wow. That's dramatic. I propose the name "Rooster Lincoln."
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 Posted 11/18/2019  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
Here's mine I found about 10 years ago....

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Not as pretty as yours, but I like it!

Enjoy and congrats on the find!



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 Posted 11/18/2019  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
So it I have it correct, then it looks like the next step was that the first die break folded over with a small flap from the die and several coins were struck. Then the adjoining side of the towards the center die the same thing. Creating two flaps over each other. But neither let loose from the die. As more coins are struck making the break get larger, covering over the devices on the edge of the die. So the die doesn't develop an actual Cud, because the edge doesn't split off. So basically it is a double flattened die break. It would be nice to find other coins with die events I theorize to see it if happened that way. Thanks for the explanation. Maybe we figured this out?
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Westernsky: I think your example was struck after Bats coin.
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 Posted 11/18/2019  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add beachnut to your friends list
Western sky's coin also has the mark on the reverse goin through OF and down toward the bottom of the right wheat stalk. What is that? Very interesting coin.
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 Posted 11/18/2019  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list
The mark on the back is the impression area due to there being a die break on the obverse opposite it. Occurs on a lot of Cuds for the same reason.
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 Posted 11/18/2019  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add beachnut to your friends list
I realized what it was after I submitted my reply. Thank you.
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