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1884-CC Morgan You Vs PCGS

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 Posted 11/19/2019  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numis-Northerner to your friends list
Looks to have a nice cameo effect, but I wouldn't say PL. MS-64.
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 Posted 11/19/2019  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
MS-64. Nice eye appeal, although not enough for PL.
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 Posted 11/19/2019  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadowtrooper78 to your friends list
Not indicative of the pictures fields are reflective to about 8 inches
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 Posted 11/19/2019  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Suomi to your friends list
65
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 Posted 11/19/2019  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acloco to your friends list
64
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 Posted 11/20/2019  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
The obvious ding on Liberty's jaw doesn't help.
No wear, but the patina has been rubbed on some of the high points.
A few hairline scratches sufficiently deep enough to be seen on the reverse, under the patina.
Some light scuffs, both sides.
Slight loss of hair detail over Liberty's ear - must be a light strike in this area; I can't see any wear, and luster seems to be undisturbed at this point.
Strong luster obvious, showing from under the patina: I have not seen this very often.

An attractive coin,
TPG may be tempted to grade higher to have a happy customer, (and thus repeat business), but
MS-63, (nearer to 64 than 62).
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 Posted 11/20/2019  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
MS64+

the 84CC is known for bold strikes. this coin falls into that category. minor surface anomalies. something going on around the ear area with discoloration. luster appears to be unbroken across the cheek. both of these assessments I believe keep it from a full 65
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 Posted 11/20/2019  10:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrulon to your friends list
I will take a stab 65
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 Posted 11/20/2019  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
64 in my book
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 Posted 11/20/2019  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ham1947 to your friends list
64 here also. Photos are too grainy for me to designate a PL.
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 Posted 11/20/2019  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Much nicer than the 64's I'm use to seeing. MS-65 for me.
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 Posted 11/22/2019  07:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadowtrooper78 to your friends list
Guess its time for the reveal, and I agree it is next to impossible to determine PL from these pictures. I do believe this one does look closer to a 65 than 64
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 Posted 11/22/2019  08:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Photos didn't make me think it was PL. I do believe it is better than 64 though.
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 Posted 11/22/2019  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
64 still seems to be a bit too high, to my eye.

In defense of TPGraders:
It must be remembered that they have a few distinct advantages, when examining a coin for grading.
1. They get to examine the coin naked, hand held.
2. They don't have to worry about sometime less than perfect on screen pictures.
3. They can move to coin to see it under various angles if incident light.
4. They have the advantage of the use of a good quality 10X loupe.
5. They don't have to see it under the screen of the plastic of the slab.
6. They may be tempted to grade higher, to have a happy customer, with the greater probability of repeat business.


Nevertheless I really enjoy the challenge of grading other members' coins, so that I can enhance my own grading skills.
So keep 'em coming.
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 Posted 11/22/2019  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Suomi to your friends list
Definite 65
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