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Ebay Collecting State Tax On Non-Taxable Coinage

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 Posted 12/01/2019  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
May not help. Rather than trying to keep track of all the different exception and exemptions that each state has they are probably just looking at "State X has a Y% sales tax rate." and applying it to everything, leaving up to the buyer who shouldn't have been charged to apply to their state revenue service for a refund of the overtaxed amount.
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 Posted 12/01/2019  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fplagge to your friends list
On a related matter, it bugs me that ebay charges their 10% fees on shipping costs as well as on selling price.
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 Posted 12/01/2019  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paleoguy45 to your friends list
Don't forget that, as of 1Nov. PayPal DOES NOT refund fees if a coin is returned and the money is refunded to the buyer. I sold a 1995-W 10th Anniv. Set with '95-W Silver Eagle and a coin dealer/cherry picker returned the set because he didn't think the Eagle would 70. That "incident" cost me over $200 thanks to PayPal keeping their transaction fee and insured shipping on the set. :(

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 Posted 12/01/2019  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list

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On a related matter, it bugs me that ebay charges their 10% fees on shipping costs as well as on selling price.


You can thank greedy sellers that sold $100 coins for $10 and $90 shipping.
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 Posted 12/01/2019  2:09 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list

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if you sell a gold coin as coinage, it will be taxed in almost every state if not all


I believe that over half the states, including Idaho, now exempt numismatic coins and bullion from sales tax. But as @Conder said, it's a lot easier for ebay to ignore the specific exemptions and apply the tax across the board.
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 Posted 12/01/2019  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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Most states DO NOT tax our coinage (currency is another matter); yet ebay continues to place un-editable state taxes in my invoices to buyers


Most states actually DO charge sales tax on coins. Many of the ones that have exemptions require you to get to a certain threshold before it happens. Barely any states don't charge it at all for coins.

If there is a glitch in the software where it is doing it unnecessarily then yes ebay would like to know to fix it. If people don't want sales tax on coins, vote for people that don't want tax/contact your state representatives/start petitions etc. ebay is doing what the state governments tell them they have to do nothing more, ebay actually also fought against it while the other big boys were in favor of it as they already had to collect it.


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You can thank greedy sellers that sold $100 coins for $10 and $90 shipping.


That and it makes them more money like PayPal collecting fees on the collected tax now. I get why they did it, but it would have been nice if when you let their system calculate the shipping or a drop down menu of different methods at cost etc that the shipping wouldn't be taxed in those cases. Probably would have been easier for everyone instead of having to charge a little bit over to cover the fee.
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 Posted 12/02/2019  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list
What I can't understand is that my last 3 ebay sales have been two world coins and a baseball card. Coins were taxed, but not the baseball card .

(Edit: Never mind. Just realized it's the destination state that matters)
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 Posted 12/02/2019  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list
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 Posted 12/03/2019  09:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
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SECTION 12-36-2120. Exemptions from sales tax.

Exempted from the taxes imposed by this chapter are the gross proceeds of sales, or sales price of:

(70)(a) gold, silver, or platinum bullion, or any combination of this bullion;

(b) coins that are or have been legal tender in the United States or other jurisdiction; and

(c) currency.

The department shall prescribe documentation that must be maintained by retailers claiming the exemption allowed by this item. This documentation must be sufficient to identify each individual sale for which the exemption is claimed;
That last line may explain why some dealers, like APMEX, do charge sales tax for SC deliveries.

For what it is worth, I have never paid sales tax for coins at the coin shows here. However, I have seen the SC DOR aggressively prosecute (non-numismatic) vendors at flea markets for not collecting sales taxes. YMMV.
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 Posted 12/03/2019  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
What ever happened to "No taxation without representation"
Doesn't really mater anyway since the so called representation is just someone that wants money too.
By me everything is taxed. They now tax anything I try to buy via a catalog over the mail. I really can't think of anything that is not taxed. This is why I only buy coins at a coin show. So far no taxes there. SO FAR that is.
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 Posted 12/07/2019  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list

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I really can't think of anything that is not taxed.


Almost everything I buy in the grocery store is not taxed (I think dog food is taxed, but I haven't heard her growl about it yet).
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 Posted 12/07/2019  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list

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What ever happened to "No taxation without representation"


Taxes are being applied by YOUR state, so you are represented.


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This is why I only buy coins at a coin show. So far no taxes there. SO FAR that is.


Actually incorrect. If the purchase is taxable, it's taxable whether the seller collects sales tax or you owe use tax.

Somebody has to pay for schools, roads, state patrol, fire department, police, trash pick-up et al. Some is at the local level, some at the county and much is state-wide. If you want the services, you have to pay the taxes.

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 Posted 12/07/2019  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
I think that the list of states that ebay will collect tax for is easily available to see. I think the number is up to 34 states so far.
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 Posted 12/08/2019  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
Here's a good article on sales tax on coins and bullion. I think the main problem is how to get ebay to recognize the various state exemptions.

https://www.numismaticnews.net/arti...x-exemptions
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 Posted 12/28/2019  10:25 am  Show Profile   Check Lancek's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Lancek to your friends list
I'm in Iowa, which, as long as I've been paying attention, does not collect tax on coins. Iowa has required ebay to add tax to any items shipped to Iowa residents. But so far it has not showed up on my coin buying or selling. The last three coins I sold went to WY, OH, FL. One was a non US Panama Balboa. No tax was charged on any of them. I have added a lot of different coins to my cart just to see if sales tax would show up. Coins from sellers in Iowa, others outside of Iowa.
Everything from $1600 St Gaudens to $3 silver Washington quarters. None of them showed any tax added.
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