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Counterfeit 1 Oz. Gold Ebay Bar

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 Posted 06/19/2020  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Goldflake to your friends list
Hi. I just came across this counterfeit. This pic shows the simple way of finding out the counterfeit. OVER THE EDGE UNCONFORMED WEIGHT.p.s. Its being sold on ebay. item #324196160108 Some ebayer may never know its a fake.
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 Posted 06/19/2020  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list
ebay won't be offended and take them down because they still get final value fees when they sell.
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 Posted 06/20/2020  05:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Goldflake to your friends list
ebay. item #324196160108 sold for US $1,360.04
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 Posted 06/23/2020  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Goldflake to your friends list
Quick follow up: As of 6/23/2020

Seller of this counterfeit and other fake gold has been hit with 4 negatives
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 Posted 06/23/2020  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list
It is beyond me why someone would buy a gold bar from a new, unknown, seller.

However, couldn't the buyer get their money back?
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 Posted 06/23/2020  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glenmorenee to your friends list
Yes, ebay covers you but you better respond in a timely manner. A lot of people don't break the seal thinking it's worth more that way and won't find out until well later. Or it's the heirs that find out. I buy sealed pandas occasionally but I always open them up to do my verification.
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 Posted 06/23/2020  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list
Good info.
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 Posted 06/24/2020  07:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list
Yikes! Seller had 3 negs selling electronics a year ago, then waited and began selling gold. 83% FB great seller!
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 Posted 06/25/2020  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrPink2018 to your friends list
never in this lifetime or the next would I buy gold from ebay. never.
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 Posted 06/26/2020  12:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glenmorenee to your friends list
My experiences on ebay so far have been problem free. Coins I have received from smaller sellers are almost always in perfect condition. Coins from the big dealers are mostly perfect. Some just alright. In 2 cases they were horrid and there was no problem exchanging for another.
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 Posted 12/06/2021  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hobbyguy77 to your friends list
Just stumbled upon one of these on ebay for the first time - thanks for having this info up here. It seems they've fixed the formatting issue with the bar weight going out of bounds of the specs box, although the "Gold Content - 1" does have the "1" not 100% aligned on the one I found:
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One more thing to pay attention to on these is the font on the bar itself, which is best seen in the letter "M" of the word "Mint". A fake will have a "boxier" M, with "flat peaks", whereas a real one will have "sharp peaks":

Fake:
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Genuine:
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Seems to be the same counterfeit factory that created the fake Perth Mint bars in black assay cards (gen 3), because those bars use that same font. See FakeBullion's page on " Perth Mint 1 OUNCE GOLD BAR IN BLACK ASSAY CARD (GEN 3)" to see what I mean.
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 Posted 12/06/2021  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list
There are numerous differences on both sides of the bar as well as the holder but you only need to know a couple.
That is what we call the "Straight Sided M" when reporting counterfeits .
Notice how there is no slope on the sides.
Also what you are referring to as peaks are called serifs.
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 Posted 12/07/2021  08:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingwater to your friends list
I buy coins/bullion on ebay, no problem, but mostly from established businesses like Bullion Exchanges, Liberty Coins, APMEX, etc. and trusted smaller stores I know are legit.
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 Posted 12/13/2021  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hobbyguy77 to your friends list
Ok, will try to remember that terminology - thanks JimmyD! And thank you for the welcome as well jbuck!
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