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Pillar of the Community
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coop
the impression on this coin is mirrored.East corner of the letter on the Rim matches the South corner of the actual letter E , I think we need to see the reverse image for final assessment don't you?
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Because of how deep the E on the rim is, if it were PSD from another coin there would be incuse damage on this rim from where the other coin rim crossed. IMHO it seems like a dropped letter to me also. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I see that now. But a dropped letter could be either side of the dropped letter.. They are formed mirrored on the die, dropped and struck onto the coin depending on how it flipped. I still find it interesting. Seems like if this were PSD, from another coin, we would see other devices or surface damage on the coin. So I don't feel it's damaged. I noticed the shape on the lower left edge of the 'E' on the bottom as a raised area on that device. That was the game changer for me. Thanks Chase. |
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Thank you coop for making it a logical and understanding explanation, what you are proposing make's sense.
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Interesting find. If no pressure is applied to the rim in the minting process, how is this possible unless it is PSD? |
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I lean towards a dropped letter as well, it's very prominent and not mirrored as coop said. I think it's a dropped letter, in which case it's be a stellar find!
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Bedrock of the Community
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If it was a dropped letter, why is there no trace of it in the field? If this was a dropped letter laying on the planchet pre-strike, in the position such that the back of the letter would be formed into the rim, the arms of the E would have extended into the field. They been pressed into the planchet by the field of the die before the back of the E was impressed into the rim. So where is the rest of the E?
On the other hand if the E was pressed in post strike, the rim being the highest point could very conceivably show the back of an E with nothing showing in the field.
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Bedrock of the Community
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It may have fallen into the gutter area that forms the rim of the coin. That area creates the rim.  Note the one designated 1. When that area chips off the die, it creates rim Cuds. So it may have fallen into that area of the coin pre strike? |
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The explanation on the possibilities are all logical, but the window of questions on the exact cause still remains open, we would still need to see the reverse image of that area, but OP has been MIA on this request and not responding  IMO that would help to conclude this story of guessing game!. Edited by Chase007
05/15/2020 09:27 am
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The E on the 1983 cent is almost certainly a contact mark from another cent. Furthermore, the B on Bob Piazza's cent that Coop has chosen to illustrate the concept of the dropped letter is also probably a contact mark. The fact that it's restricted to the highest point on the head and that it disappears just as it meets a lower-relief area is a warning sign. A genuine dropped letter (or any dropped filling) will not respect the boundaries of the design or strengthen and weaken in sync with topographical changes.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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A genuine dropped letter (or any dropped filling) will not respect the boundaries of the design or strengthen and weaken in sync with topographical changes. Thank you mikediamond for clarifying. |
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sorry I took so long but I'm more curious about the incused letter E heres the reverse image, no noticeable damage    |
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PennyHunter4,
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t may have fallen into the gutter area that forms the rim of the coin. That area creates the rim. If it had been a dropped letter that had fallen in the "gutter" of the die, in order to have the back of the E where it is the arms of the E would have had to have been leaning up against the die pointing up toward the field. When the planchet metal came down into the gutter it would have either mangled the dropped letter or shown as three voids in the rim leading to the back of the letter. |
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