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On pre-strike split planchets, don't we normally see heavy weakness towards the center of the coin as well? I would expect weaker devices if it were split pre-strike. I wouldn't expect there to be enough metal after the split for the strike to be as pronounced as it is on this coin. I'm not saying it's not possible, but it looks closer to a tapered planchet to me.  -CH27
Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
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It's very cool regardless!
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Struck on a planchet derived from rolled-thin cent stock with perhaps a slight taper on the right.
Error coin writer and researcher.
Edited by mikediamond 05/18/2020 1:59 pm
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More food for thought. I see Denver produced 5 Centavos for Ecuador this year.
Ecuador 5 Centavos 80% copper, 20% zinc Weight - 2.0 grams Diameter - 17mm
If US cent blanks were punched from the wrong stock at 19mm. Could that account for an additional .21 grams? Thanks, Doug.
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Tropicalbats, did you find this in a lot you bought? It's an amazing find!
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Congratulations for another awesome find, tropicalbats. I am no expert but I have read Alan Herbert book and if you have it, turn to page 222 of the 6th edition "III-E-19 Struck on a Trial Strike-Stock Planchet (IE)" & "III-E-20 US Coin Struck on a Foreign-Stock Planchet (E)".... your coin is very promising for authentication.... I do enjoy your coin finds...congrats, again & again....
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Thanks so much for all the great comments! I found this one in a random bunch of coins I bought and it was pretty obviously something different. Really looks like mint made and not damage, which I think folks pretty much agree with, but it has a bevel on the reverse edge but missing that on the obverse edge and has that bit of a fin or something going on. Seemed like the obverse had split off before the strike, but some chance it was just ground down. The weakness on the reverse strongly suggests an error though as that is what it probably should look like if struck on a thin planchet.
I guess the question is, given that it was struck on a thin planchet, was it split, thin rolled, or foreign/trial strike. I don't have the Herbert book to look that up, so not sure if sosicoin could post or PM me a shot of that page. As noted it doesn't seem to show any of the rippling effect typical of a split planchet, so maybe that really isn't an option and Mike didn't suggest that as a possibility. So a thin planchet, just which way did it become a thin planchet?
Neat coin and I really appreciate all the comments. Thanks!
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The absence of striations would seem to eliminate a split planchet. Unless further evidence is brought forward, one should always revert to the most prosaic explanation, which is a rolled-thin error. Such errors are quite common. You can't even get $5 for them on ebay (I know, I've tried).
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I really like this one, but have no idea of the possible value. If it were in a coin shop for $5-$10 I'd have to pick it up!
ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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Long day at work so just getting to things. I tend to agree with Mike that it's not a high dollar error, but from my end I am more interested in getting it correctly labeled than value. What it is, is more important to me than value. I am, at a basic level a scientist (cave/bat biologist) and like to be able to put coins in a specific place. This one continues to confound me even with the comments here. Struck on a thin planchet just doesn't seem enough. That is what will go on the slip, but just seems like something more here.
sosicoin sent me photos from the Herbert book. Not convinced it's that, but not convinced it's not.
So huge thanks to all who have commented! Just still not sure how to label the coin.
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I have a great fondness for bats. They are marvels of evolution and perform vital ecosystem services. So kudos to you for working to understand and protect our flapping friends.
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Thanks Mike, With White Nose Syndrome wiping out some bat species and other stresses on them my work in the US has been pretty important. My tropical work also helps to conserve them in other places. They really are throwbacks, mostly unchanged for 50 million years, and have been a part of the landscape for a very, very long time. Our loss of them now is not without environmental consequences, and working to figure out where the remaining populations are is fairly important.
It's what I do in the summer, mostly, with error and variety coins in the winter while the bats are asleep.
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Very cool TB! (great coin too!) 
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