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1733-1794 Netherlands Silver Rider Ducaton NGC And PCGS Combined Pop Report

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 Posted 03/15/2023  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list
Do you think that half-ducatons are less desirable than ducatons?
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 Posted 03/15/2023  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Check beem's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add beem to your friends list
No, but I won't claim to know for sure. The half is still a pretty large coin, containing just a hair less than half an oz of silver. Prices are, ballpark, about half of what one might pay for a full sized coin with same grade & similar levels of rarity and eye appeal. I have not done a combined pop for half ducatons, but I would imagine they are rarer. Very similar situation with 18th century gold riders, the 7 Gulden examples are much more scarce than the 14 Gulden coins.
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Prices are, ballpark, about half of what one might pay for a full sized coin with same grade & similar levels of rarity and eye appeal.


Looking at old catalogus prices, it seems there is not much of a difference in price between a ducaton and a half-ducaton of the same year and quality.
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 Posted 03/16/2023  07:02 am  Show Profile   Check beem's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add beem to your friends list
That's interesting. Looking at the market now, one would be better off having bought full-sized Ducatons.
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That's interesting. Looking at the market now, one would be better off having bought full-sized Ducatons.


Yes, that seems to be the case.
Maybe "bigger" really is "better".
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Here is a beautiful Half-ducaton on auction: https://coins.ha.com/itm/netherland...2311-63491.s
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 Posted 03/16/2023  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Check beem's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add beem to your friends list
I didn't even see that one. Went for a low price IMHO.
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I didn't even see that one. Went for a low price IMHO.


Was that a coin you might have wanted to add to your collection?
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 Posted 03/18/2023  05:51 am  Show Profile   Check beem's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add beem to your friends list
Sure, it's a nice looking coin for the grade. Long term, these prices will look like absolute bargains.
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I ran the numbers for Half Silver Riders. Both NGC and PCGS combined, total of 204 graded AU50 or higher. Of those, 133 are MS60 or higher.

Compared to the full size coin, last time I ran the numbers (May 2022), 500 total AU50 and higher. Of those, 228 at MS60 or higher.
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 Posted 03/25/2023  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Check beem's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add beem to your friends list
If anyone wants the numbers for Half Silver Riders, here is a link to a .csv (comma separated values) file, which can be opened with Excel or probably any spreadsheet software. This is of course NGC and PCGS pops combined.

https://wondycoin.com/wondyreport/h...s_031823.csv
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Is there a way to obtain the certs. of graded Silver Riders?
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 Posted 03/24/2024  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Check beem's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add beem to your friends list
Not that I am aware of.
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 Posted 04/16/2024  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Check beem's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add beem to your friends list
From a recent Heritage auction:

1733-1794-Netherlands-Silver-Rider-Ducaton-NGC-And-PCGS-Combined-Pop-Report


So, was the price bid up because of the + on the grade, or because of the "1776" date? I'm thinking the date.
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 Posted 03/06/2025  09:40 am  Show Profile   Check beem's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add beem to your friends list
Updated combined NGC and PCGS pops.

Grades AU50 and up.
No Piefort or Gold Struck.
This is a .csv file (comma separated values), which will open in Excel or other spreadsheet software.
http://wondycoin.com/temp/silver_ri...ops_2025.csv
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