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1733-1794 Netherlands Silver Rider Ducaton NGC And PCGS Combined Pop Report

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Score anything in the Heritage Auction?


No winning bids for me. The Silver Rider has established itself as the king of crown-sized silver coins. Prices will only go higher in the long run.

I was able to score two examples at the FUN show, a nice Zeeland AU58 which is currently being re-holded by NGC and an exquisite Utrecht 1/2 Ducaton, graded MS63 by PCGS.
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Confirms my impression that there might still be "value" in the half ducatons (even though they are only half the face value, they are three quarters the size).

Don;t worry guys, I'm not gonna compete... purely professional curiosity
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I was able to score two examples at the FUN show, a nice Zeeland AU58 which is currently being re-holded by NGC and an exquisite Utrecht 1/2 Ducaton, graded MS63 by PCGS.


What is your objective collecting Ducatons? Just for fun, or do you see it as an investment?
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 Posted 01/20/2023  07:05 am  Show Profile   Check beem's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add beem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both!
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How long have you been collecting Ducatons, beem?
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 Posted 01/20/2023  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Check beem's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add beem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Almost 5 years since I bought my first example.
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Do you also collect half-ducatons?
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 Posted 03/14/2023  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Check beem's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add beem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sold a couple, just bought a couple, one I bought at FUN.
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 Posted 03/15/2023  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do you think that half-ducatons are less desirable than ducatons?
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No, but I won't claim to know for sure. The half is still a pretty large coin, containing just a hair less than half an oz of silver. Prices are, ballpark, about half of what one might pay for a full sized coin with same grade & similar levels of rarity and eye appeal. I have not done a combined pop for half ducatons, but I would imagine they are rarer. Very similar situation with 18th century gold riders, the 7 Gulden examples are much more scarce than the 14 Gulden coins.
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Prices are, ballpark, about half of what one might pay for a full sized coin with same grade & similar levels of rarity and eye appeal.


Looking at old catalogus prices, it seems there is not much of a difference in price between a ducaton and a half-ducaton of the same year and quality.
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That's interesting. Looking at the market now, one would be better off having bought full-sized Ducatons.
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That's interesting. Looking at the market now, one would be better off having bought full-sized Ducatons.


Yes, that seems to be the case.
Maybe "bigger" really is "better".
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Here is a beautiful Half-ducaton on auction: https://coins.ha.com/itm/netherland...2311-63491.s
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 Posted 03/16/2023  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Check beem's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add beem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't even see that one. Went for a low price IMHO.
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