1733-1794 Netherlands Silver Rider Ducaton NGC And PCGS Combined Pop Report - Page 6

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tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7956 Posts	Posted 11/03/2022 2:08 pm I've never shopped for unslabbed Dutch ducatons, but I would guess they still pop up at the Schulman and Elsen auctions? Also, an unexpected place where 17th century Low Countries material shows up is at the Polish and Baltic houses (Niemczyk, WCN, Marciniak, etc). Again, I've never looked for ducatons, but I've picked up some Spanish Netherlands patagons there, and I know that Dutch (gold) ducats and leeuwendaalders used to show up often. Report this Post to the Staff
realeswatcher Pillar of the Community United States 1962 Posts	Posted 11/03/2022 10:53 pm Quote: Also, an unexpected place where 17th century Low Countries material shows up is at the Polish and Baltic houses... Dutch trade daalders clearly were used/traded with in the Baltic region... tons of them offered on ebay the last 5, 6 years or so (clearly hoard-type discoveries). Seems that this primarily applies to early-mid 1600s leeuwendaalders and rijksdaalders. ------------------------ Quote: Thanks! Both are Ducats, part of a limited Netherlands Crown type set. The unexpectedly NON-salvage 1733 posted by fluffy! It should be stated for accuracy that these are ducatONs... not the Dutch "silver ducat", which is a different coin. Edited by realeswatcher 11/03/2022 11:00 pm Report this Post to the Staff
NumisEd Pillar of the Community United States 5192 Posts	Posted 11/08/2022 4:23 pm Quote: I have not seen a single raw example that was priced well and worth grading. Link to some examples? How about this one: https://www.ma-shops.com/schepers/item.php?id=5689 Report this Post to the Staff
beem Pillar of the Community United States 574 Posts	Posted 11/09/2022 06:02 am At least the seller is honest about the cleaning. Report this Post to the Staff
NumisEd Pillar of the Community United States 5192 Posts	Posted 11/09/2022 10:04 am Quote: At least the seller is honest about the cleaning. Agreed. In contrast to many other Dutch and European sellers, I might add. Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7956 Posts	Posted 11/10/2022 08:03 am There are a few in the upcoming Schulman auction. Wide range of grades, many unslabbed. Not sure if any fit within your criteria. Report this Post to the Staff
NumisEd Pillar of the Community United States 5192 Posts	Posted 11/10/2022 08:49 am Quote: There are a few in the upcoming Schulman auction Sure, many of them cleaned and/or low quality. Report this Post to the Staff
NumisEd Pillar of the Community United States 5192 Posts	Posted 11/24/2022 11:09 am Anyone else watching the MS63+ Silver Rider on Heritage? Beautiful coin, but waaay out of my budget Report this Post to the Staff
beem Pillar of the Community United States 574 Posts	Posted 11/25/2022 08:49 am It's on my watch list for sure! Report this Post to the Staff
beem Pillar of the Community United States 574 Posts	Posted 11/25/2022 08:52 am Finally got around to taking a vid of my newest example. 7ar12Ikvabs Report this Post to the Staff
NumisEd Pillar of the Community United States 5192 Posts	Posted 11/25/2022 11:36 am Looks great! Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7956 Posts	Posted 01/19/2023 10:46 am Score anything in the Heritage auction? Report this Post to the Staff
NumisEd Pillar of the Community United States 5192 Posts	Posted 01/19/2023 12:50 pm Quote: Score anything in the Heritage Auction? Prices were too high IMO. Decided not to bid on anything. Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7956 Posts	Posted 01/19/2023 1:38 pm I'm not in the market, but it was drawn to my attention that there were a lot of fairly rare piedforts, etc there, so ... just thought I'd ask Report this Post to the Staff
NumisEd Pillar of the Community United States 5192 Posts	Posted 01/19/2023 2:05 pm Quote: I'm not in the market, but it was drawn to my attention that there were a lot of fairly rare piedforts, etc there, so ... just thought I'd ask Yes, there were some beautiful double ducats and piedforts on the auction block. They went for very large sums of money. Edit to add: I have pretty much decided to give up on collecting Provincial Silver Ducats and just focus on my other collections. Not willing to pay $$$ for coins and have them sit on a bookshelf. Edited by NumisEd 01/19/2023 2:09 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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