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1733-1794 Netherlands Silver Rider Ducaton NGC And PCGS Combined Pop Report

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beem Valued Member United States 447 Posts	Posted 06/03/2020 09:53 am I've taken the liberty of putting together a combined population of "Silver Riders," graded AU-50 and higher by NGC and PCGS. I did simplify the numbers a bit, I did not include Pieforts, off-metal strikes, and I combined any privy marks (Rooster, Ship) and cabled/flower edge. In all, there are 353 total graded AU-50 and higher. In MS, there are 170. Only 15 total MS-65 and MS-66, none higher. Total by Province: Gelderland - 17 Holland - 27 Overyssel - 19 Utrecht - 217 West Friesland - 42 Zeeland - 31 The forum won't allow me to upload the entire report, but following these directions will allow you to do so. Copy all of the following and paste into a simple text editor, like notepad or wordpad. Save and change the file extension to .csv (comma separated values). The .csv file can be opened with Excel. Date,Province,50,53,55,58,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,Total 1733,Gelderland,,1,,,,,,,,,,1 1734,Gelderland,,,,1,,1,,,,,,2 1767,Gelderland,2,,,2,,,,,,,,4 1774,Gelderland,1,,,1,,,1,,,,,3 1790,Gelderland,,,,1,,,,,,,,1 1792,Gelderland,1,4,,,,,,,1,,,6 1734,Holland,,,1,,,,,,,,,1 1754,Holland,,,,,,,,,1,,,1 1756,Holland,,1,,,,,,,,1,,2 1758,Holland,1,,,,,,1,,,,,2 1760,Holland,,,1,,,,,,,,,1 1765,Holland,,,,,,,,1,,,,1 1766,Holland,,1,,,,,,,,,,1 1767,Holland,1,,1,,,,,,,,,2 1771,Holland,1,,,,,,,,,,,1 1773,Holland,,,1,,,,,,,,,1 1774,Holland,,1,,,,,,,,,,1 1775,Holland,,,,,,,1,,,,,1 1779,Holland,,,,,,,1,,,,,1 1788,Holland,,,,1,,,,,,,,1 1789,Holland,2,,1,,,,,,,,,3 1791,Holland,,,,2,,1,1,,,,,4 1792,Holland,,,1,1,,,,,,,,2 1793,Holland,,,,,,,,,,,1,1 1733,Overyssel,,,2,1,,,1,1,,,,5 1734,Overyssel,1,,1,2,,4,1,1,,,,10 1736,Overyssel,,,,2,,,,,,,,2 1741,Overyssel,,,1,,,,,,,,,1 1764,Overyssel,,,,1,,,,,,,,1 1733,Utrecht,,1,,,,,,,,,,1 1739,Utrecht,,,,1,,,1,,3,,,5 1740,Utrecht,,,,1,,,,,,,,1 1741,Utrecht,,,1,1,,,1,,,,,3 1744,Utrecht,,,,1,,,,,,,,1 1745,Utrecht,,,1,,,,,,,,,1 1746,Utrecht,,,,,,1,,,1,,,2 1747,Utrecht,,,,2,,,,1,,,,3 1749,Utrecht,,,,,,,,1,,,,1 1755,Utrecht,,,,1,,,,,,,,1 1758,Utrecht,,,,,,,,,1,,,1 1759,Utrecht,,,,1,,,,1,,,,2 1760,Utrecht,,,,3,,,2,1,1,,,7 1761,Utrecht,,,1,,,2,,,2,2,,7 1762,Utrecht,2,,2,,,,,1,,,,5 1763,Utrecht,,,2,3,,,1,1,,,,7 1764,Utrecht,,,,,,,,,,1,,1 1765,Utrecht,,,1,,,,1,,1,,,3 1766,Utrecht,,,,,,,1,,,,,1 1767,Utrecht,,,,,,,,1,,,,1 1768,Utrecht,1,,1,,,,1,,,,,3 1769,Utrecht,,,1,1,,,,,1,,,3 1770,Utrecht,,,,1,,,,,,,,1 1771,Utrecht,,,2,1,,,,,,,,3 1774,Utrecht,,,,,,,,1,1,,,2 1776,Utrecht,,,,1,,,,,,,,1 1778,Utrecht,,,,,,,,1,,,,1 1779,Utrecht,,,,1,,,,,,,,1 1780,Utrecht,,,1,,,,1,,,,,2 1781,Utrecht,,,,1,,,1,,1,1,,4 1782,Utrecht,,,,2,,1,,,,,,3 1784,Utrecht,,,6,2,,,1,2,1,,,12 1785,Utrecht,1,,1,1,,1,,1,1,2,,8 1786,Utrecht,,1,,1,,,1,2,2,1,1,9 1787,Utrecht,,,,1,,,2,1,1,,,5 1788,Utrecht,,,1,1,,1,1,1,,,,5 1789,Utrecht,,,2,,,,3,1,,,,6 1790,Utrecht,2,4,4,5,,,2,3,1,,,21 1791,Utrecht,2,5,2,7,,2,6,3,1,,,28 1792,Utrecht,,1,,,,,1,5,1,,1,9 1793,Utrecht,,,3,2,,,2,4,,,,11 1794,Utrecht,,,2,,,,1,6,2,1,2,14 1748/7,Utrecht,,,,,,,1,,,,,1 1757/5,Utrecht,,,1,,,,,,,,,1 1757/6,Utrecht,,,,,,,1,,,,,1 1765/3,Utrecht,,,,,,,1,1,1,,,3 1781/0,Utrecht,,,1,2,,,,2,,,,5 1759,West Friesland,,1,,1,,,,,,,,2 1760,West Friesland,1,,2,1,,,,1,,,,5 1761,West Friesland,,,,1,,,,,,,,1 1766,West Friesland,,,,,,,,1,,,,1 1775,West Friesland,,,1,,,,,,,,,1 1780,West Friesland,1,,,,,,,,,,,1 1782,West Friesland,1,1,2,,,,,,,,,4 1785,West Friesland,,,3,,,,2,3,,,,8 1789,West Friesland,,,1,,,,,,,,,1 1792,West Friesland,,,1,1,,,1,,,,,3 1793,West Friesland,,,,,,,1,,,,,1 1755/4,West Friesland,,,,,,,1,,,,,1 1778/86,West Friesland,,,,,,,1,,,,,1 1791/0,West Friesland,,,1,2,,,1,2,,,,6 1793/2,West Friesland,1,,1,1,,2,1,,,,,6 1753,Zeeland,,,,,,1,,,,,,1 1755,Zeeland,1,,,,,,,,,,,1 1758,Zeeland,,,1,,,1,,,,,,2 1762,Zeeland,,,2,1,,,,,,1,,4 1767,Zeeland,1,1,,,,,,,,,,2 1771,Zeeland,,,,1,,1,2,,,,,4 1772,Zeeland,,,,,,1,,,,,,1 1774,Zeeland,,,1,,,1,,,,,,2 1785,Zeeland,,,,,1,1,,,,,,2 1790,Zeeland,,,,,,1,,,,,,1 1791,Zeeland,,,,1,,,1,,,,,2 1792,Zeeland,1,1,,,,,,,,,,2 1793,Zeeland,,,,,,1,,,,,,1 1785/76,Zeeland,1,,,1,,,,,,,,2 1792/1,Zeeland,,,1,,,,1,,2,,,4 ,,26,24,63,70,1,24,52,51,27,10,5,353 Edited by beem 06/03/2020 09:59 am Report this Post to the Staff
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Numister Pillar of the Community 562 Posts	Posted 06/03/2020 10:11 am There's a glitch in the Matrix Edited by Numister 06/03/2020 10:11 am Report this Post to the Staff
beem Valued Member United States 447 Posts	Posted 06/03/2020 10:26 am Uh oh, did someone already do this and post it? Report this Post to the Staff
jgenn Pillar of the Community United States 1131 Posts	Posted 06/03/2020 12:16 pm I copied and pasted the data in to excel and then used the text to column command using comma as delimiter. Worked perfectly and thanks for compiling this list. How far are you in completing this set? I see my nicest example, a 1791 Utrecht, has a lot of company (28), which probably contributed to making it slightly more affordable. Report this Post to the Staff
beem Valued Member United States 447 Posts	Posted 06/03/2020 1:16 pm Quote: How far are you in completing this set? LOL, right? I recently received my 5th example, 1761 West Friesland, AU-58 NGC. Report this Post to the Staff
commems Pillar of the Community United States 8726 Posts	Posted 06/04/2020 5:58 pm Thanks for posting! I don't collect these coins, but I understand the effort it takes to catalog a series and I appreciate your willingness to share your work. Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved. Report this Post to the Staff
beem Valued Member United States 447 Posts	Posted 06/05/2020 07:28 am It wasn't too bad actually, particularly because of the small population. NGC's basically copy/pasted into excel, with a little clean up required. For PCGS, I had to begin with Excel and import data by web query which worked quite well, although I had to do it by Province. NGC slabbed the majority so I just had to add PCGS's data, sort by province/date, and then combine. Report this Post to the Staff
beem Valued Member United States 447 Posts	Posted 06/09/2020 8:01 pm I did the combined pop for the 1893-S Morgan, the rarest Morgan, and the entire pop of these Ducatons is, combined, far less than the 1893-S pop. Total AU-50 and higher 1893-S Morgan is 532. Perhaps apples and oranges, but interesting nonetheless. Report this Post to the Staff
NumisEd Pillar of the Community United States 2633 Posts	Posted 05/02/2021 8:58 pm Is there a list of Silver Rider varieties? A list of KM numbers perhaps? Edited by NumisEd 05/02/2021 9:46 pm Report this Post to the Staff
thq Pillar of the Community United States 2682 Posts	Posted 05/03/2021 4:10 pm With more interest, more coins appear. I shop at Rondomons and it's rare to find these Dutch coins slabbed. I had a first edition copy of Doug Winter's book on Charlotte gold. Over the decades, his original population estimates in the 1980's have been greatly exceeded. Here's one example At one time, the 1855-C was exceedingly rare in Uncirculated and when I wrote the first edition of my Charlotte book back in the 1980's I was not aware of a single Mint State piece. Due to gradeflation and new discoveries, the 1855-C has become a more available coin in Uncirculated and today there are as many as six or seven known. "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire Edited by thq 05/03/2021 4:28 pm Report this Post to the Staff
beem Valued Member United States 447 Posts	Posted 05/04/2021 08:12 am Quote: Is there a list of Silver Rider varieties? A list of KM numbers perhaps? NumisEd, not as far as I know. I haven't really bothered. These are so rare in higher grades, I just buy what I can find/afford. Report this Post to the Staff
NumisEd Pillar of the Community United States 2633 Posts	Posted 05/04/2021 08:48 am Do you know what the population report looks like in XF grades? Report this Post to the Staff
beem Valued Member United States 447 Posts	Posted 05/04/2021 09:06 am I didn't take lower grades into account. But I'm fairly certain there's not a lot there either, not including "details" grades. Consider, there are almost as many MS60 to MS66 as there are AU50 to AU58. Report this Post to the Staff
NumisEd Pillar of the Community United States 2633 Posts	Posted 05/04/2021 11:11 am I guess Silver Riders are not as ubiquitous as Lion Dollars? Report this Post to the Staff
beem Valued Member United States 447 Posts	Posted 05/04/2021 11:14 am Not even close. Report this Post to the Staff
NumisEd Pillar of the Community United States 2633 Posts	Posted 05/04/2021 11:30 am I suppose most of the Silver Riders were melted down at the end of the 18th century to be reused in the production of new coinage (Guldens, Rijksdaalders). Report this Post to the Staff
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