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Seeking Advice On 1917 Gold Sovereign, No Mint Mark

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 Posted 07/13/2020  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougheath to your friends list
Thanks for everyone's help. I'll try to upload, and can also email. The dealers in town mentioned the same thing re fakes, but then took at the coin, examined the weight, etc made cash offers on the spot. So my hunch is it's real. I'm really looking at how best to get between what the dealers are offering, low $3-4k, and the GBP10K I see cited on other websites. I guess I get the certification, but after that, what do I do. And which certification should I purchase, etc.
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(The history of this is that my grandfather, born in 1906, immigrated to Canada from London in the 1920s, and brought this with him.)
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 Posted 07/13/2020  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TobyJ to your friends list
If you could take some great photos in adequate light with sharp details and upload them we could help you lots. 300kb is the file limit for upload. I resize my photos in Paint, just file-resize and change the percentage until it tells you the file size (at the bottom) is under 300kb. Sorry if I sounded patronising, only trying to help :)
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 Posted 07/13/2020  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougheath to your friends list

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 Posted 07/13/2020  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougheath to your friends list
Thanks JBuck. Friends, any views based on this picture?
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 Posted 07/13/2020  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
From that pic , can't tell much !
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 Posted 07/13/2020  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Sharper pics needed, including full shots of both sides.
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 Posted 07/13/2020  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list
This is one time I agree that it should be certified (once we are satisfied that it looks good), as much for authenticity as anything else. Also, assuming that it is authentic, an auction would get you the best price, even after the fees, because it opens the market very wide. Selling it to a local dealer would not get you the best price, because the market for such an item in Ottawa (and I should know, since I am from Ottawa) is very thin. The only problem with an auction is that it will take some time to get your money.

The simple rule is, you can either maximize your gain, or get your money quickly, but not both.
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 Posted 07/13/2020  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
To my eye, the designer's initials are too small and too far to the right for this date. Google "1917 GB sovereign images" and compare.
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 Posted 07/13/2020  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Sorry mate , you have what appears to be a cast fake in my learned opinion.
Compare your photos to a few of the real ones sold . HA.com is a great place to start .
Has all the ear marks of the Lebanese Counterfeit coins that were common in the
1960s and 1970s . Amongst others (ie US gold Coins) they
have full gold and were made primarily to get around US Importation bans on
Gold at the time .
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 Posted 07/14/2020  04:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hogarth to your friends list

Yes, I concur with Pacificoin, most likely a jeweller's copy.
The design isn't quite right, a little too mushy and ill-defined. The rims are wrong too. I would though still have it examined 'in hand' by someone if you're in any doubt.
Here's a 1917 S for comparison. Different mint but, apart from this having the identifying 'S', they should otherwise look the same.

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