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Valued Member
United States
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That kind of difference, I'd bring it to their attention. If they're selling the coin, they probably really need the money, and if they really need the money, 20k will help them tremendously.
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Pillar of the Community
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Is this some kind of numismatics ethics seminar?  Why would caveat venditor not pertain in equal measure to caveat emptor? I buy it with no question asked.
Edited by tdziemia 10/21/2020 9:52 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Judge me for this but here's all I have to say.
You can tell them, and that's cool. But 99% chance someone buys it first. Might as well be you/me.
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How is that different from cherry picking? If you noticed a rare variety in a dealer's junk bin or on ebay, would you notify the seller so he could price it appropriately, or just buy it?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: How is that different from cherry picking?  I would buy it. In the case of ebay, if a genuine mistake/typo in pricing was made and the seller realizes it before they ship, then they have the ability to cancel the sale.
In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020 In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020 In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Bedrock of the Community
United Kingdom
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In the 1990s I used to know a guy who collected stamps and coins for a local charity. He had collecting boxes in shops and churches, and every so often would bring me huge sacks of coins to sort through. He was knowledgeable about stamps but knew very little about coins. At that time I travelled a lot for work, and I used to give him an agreed percentage of face value for current coins from countries I regularly visited. For coins that were no longer legal tender, the bulk of which were common-date pre-decimal British pennies and halfpennies, we would agree a price that was usually about 5p per coin, but if I pulled out anything really valuable I would tell him. Once I found an Austrian gold coin, and I took it to my LCS and asked the dealer how much he would pay for it: I then gave my friend a little more than this. Another coin I found was a really high-end Edward VII Newfoundland 50 cents, probably about MS63. I would not have wanted to pay anywhere near the true value of this coin, as I don't really specialize in Newfie coins, so I recommended that he sent it for auction.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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That situation is difficult to believe. I just couldn't see anyone making that kind of error. However, if it did happen, I would at lest try to tell the seller what he had.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: How is that different from cherry picking? I wouldn't consider it cherry picking. It's more like this: You have a 1909 S VDB, you accidently price it as a 1909 S.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: You have a 1909 S VDB, you accidently price it as a 1909 S. Your original question is from the perspective of the buyer. So how do you, as the buyer, know whether he accidentally priced it wrong, or whether he didn't realize it was a VDB? The latter case would be a cherry pick.
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Pillar of the Community
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Does it make sense to reward carelessness or stupidity? Or is there more value in a costly lesson learned? 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I wouldn't rip off a friend, but the dealer has the item priced at a value they are happy with. Who am I to argue with that?
I recently purchased a coin for ~$500 at auction that I know full well should have gone for $5,000+. No regrets on my end.
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Valued Member
United States
171 Posts |
The first thing I would think is that it's a counterfeit. If a coin dealer is ridiculously under-charging an item calling it a "bargain" and it's not certified by NGC or PCGS, I would NEVER buy it. If I knew it was real, and the seller didn't know what he had I would buy it; after all he's selling it for that price. Now if it was a friend or an old lady or something I would defiantly tell them the true value of the item.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: The first thing I would think is that it's a counterfeit. Me, too. I'd wonder what was wrong with it. This is nowhere near a $20k mistake, but I saw a bunch of older coins at a yard sale once—a couple was clearing out grandma's house, and just trying to unload what they could. I picked through and they had a couple Standing Liberty quarters, some Walkers and several Mercuries, along with a good pile of wheaties, mostly pretty well circulated but the SL's and walkers looked maybe AU to me. Wanted something like $10 for the bunch (I think they just figured they'd ask a little over face value). I grabbed them before someone else could and took them to the person taking money and told her I couldn't swear to the actual value, but I was certain she could get more than $10 from a dealer. The melt value on the silver alone would've been at least $20. Would I do the same with an actual dealer? Probably. I'd be more likely to think I was missing something and they knew what they were doing, so I'd probably say something like, "what am I missing here?" Which would alert them, right?
Edited by twslisa 10/26/2020 1:20 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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A friend or someone I know; I would tell them.
If at a dealer I would ask if the price is correct. If one I have a regular business relation with I would say something.
Online or coin stores I visit when on vacation - not a word about their mistake. I feel like they should have done better research OR attention to detail on their price input if a typo. Honest mistakes occur and prior to transaction it can be rectified/cancelled. But if the transaction has already completed on both parties part, I am not going to lose sleep. They didn't realize what they had or inadvertently got sloppy without double checking inputs. Neither are my issue. To me it is like cherry picking - find the diamond in the rough. Seller beware applies just as much as buyer beware as tdz mentioned.
Edited by scopru 10/26/2020 2:15 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Anyone watch Antiques Road Show?
Have you ever heard the person with the antique they bought for $20 be told it's worth $1,000, and then say "Oh, I feel terrible. I'd better go compensate the seller better?"
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