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NGC Vs PCGS Who's Your Favorite?

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 Posted 10/26/2020  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Nerd to your friends list
I collect Morgan dollars and I love the way they look in NGC holders. That's just my preference though. I guess it's just the way I was first exposed to third-party grading, but for a long time I thought NGC was THE grading service and PCGS was kind of a lower-level competitor that was not fit for grading high rarities. I personally find PCGS holders ugly.
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 Posted 10/26/2020  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I have a complete PCGS Ike set.

I only have two Ikes in NGC.

Read that however you want, but I could very well complete the NGC set at some point.
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 Posted 10/26/2020  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scopru to your friends list

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For coins where value or grade are concerned PCGS is a must. Any high rarity or grade rarities have to be in a PCGS holder or you're not getting anywhere.

I do not even understand what this means. PCGS is not the end all be all as this statement makes it sound.


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All the set registry collectors use PCGS and therefor have less interest in NGC slabs, it's just how it is.

Doesn't NGC have a more inclusive registry than PCGS - as in allowing PCGS slabs as well and NGC? (rhetorical question) So that to me allows for a more likely opportunity to see the best of the best in sets vs limiting to only allowing 1 TPG.


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I just hate the way that NGC holders present some coins.

Some coins I am with you 100%. The white plastic has a way of minimizing the WOW factor on some coins.

This is a very subjective topic. I think grape makes some points. But as he says it is his opinion. As what I say is my opinion. If I had to pick it comes down to which company I have had the better experience with. The past couple of years it has been NGC. That being said this is my own experience and I know for fact others have had opposite experiences. So at the heart of it I have slabs from the big 3. Why if I am a fan of NGC? Because I practice the cliche but very true saying "buy the coin not the holder".
On that I think we should all be able to agree.







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 Posted 10/26/2020  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list

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PCGS is not the end all be all as this statement makes it sound.


Not saying it is 100%, but from my experience when it comes to prices realized PCGS brings the most.


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Doesn't NGC have a more inclusive registry than PCGS - as in allowing PCGS slabs as well and NGC? (rhetorical question) So that to me allows for a more likely opportunity to see the best of the best in sets vs limiting to only allowing 1 TPG.


More inclusive? Yes. More detailed? Yes. More popular? No. Makes sense? No. For example in the NGC No-Gold Type Set a MS64 1877-S Seated Half is around 2900 points. A 1976 Proof-69DCAM Washington quarter is 3400 points. One costs $1500 the other $15. Explain how that makes sense. I called and asked and apparently that's on purpose. Don't get it. Don't even get me started on the MS/PF thing.


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"buy the coin not the holder".
On that I think we should all be able to agree.


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 Posted 10/26/2020  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
Yep, I've never purchased a coin because of the holder!
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 Posted 10/26/2020  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew99 to your friends list
ANACS is better for circ type and errors, NGC for gold, PCGS for MS coins, IMO.
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 Posted 10/27/2020  08:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Makes no difference to me. I collect coins not plastic so I just break out the coins and throw away the plastic.
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 Posted 10/27/2020  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pepactonius to your friends list
Mostly NGC for non-US coins, and certainly for ancients.

Either PCGS or NGC for US coins.
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 Posted 10/27/2020  09:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Neither.

I prefer to grade my own coins, and save the expense.
It is essential for any serious collector to grade accurately, especially when buying, to 'buy the coin, not the slab'.

Third Party Grading is most useful if you are selling coins, especially on ebay, and for authentication.

I don't use ebay and I don't sell coins, I just collect and study 'em. My collection has remained in the growth phase for more than 50 years.
Besides, slabs don't fit into my scheme of things for storing and displaying my collection.
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 Posted 12/10/2020  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialjohn to your friends list
If its pre-1792 U.S. and foreign I prefer NGC. The main problem with both TPG's is accuracy with esoteric coins that are irregularly struck, non-homogenous surfaces or other natural factors where many times they are called cleaned or environmentally damaged. PCGS appears more strict - but NGC say would do better with a 1821 Zacatecas 8 Reale than PCGS IMO. If its Federal U.S. take your pick IMO. In this realm most collectors lean to PCGS. They do serve an important service to numismatics particularly for beginners and Internet buying. JPL
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 Posted 12/10/2020  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add That Coin Dude to your friends list
NGC for me, grades world coins.
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 Posted 12/11/2020  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slerk to your friends list
I noticed that NGC is very well established in the world coins market. In my homeland (Russia), many people prefer NGS. PCGS, on the other hand, is represented mainly by US coins. I collect US coins myself and most of my collection is presented to PCGS.
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 Posted 12/11/2020  02:14 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list
I'm not partial to either one over the other, it really just depends on the coin. The only matter-of-fact opinion I have is that the older NGC holders that completely encircle the coin are ugly and I don't like not being able to see the edge of the coin.

The only company I've submitted coins to is ANACS, but I've purchased coins graded by all three.
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 Posted 12/11/2020  05:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slerk to your friends list
spruett001 I completely agree with you. The old NGC holders are very bad. When I browse ebay for new coins one of the things that stops me from buying is the old NGC holders. I want to see the NGC designer of that time
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 Posted 12/16/2020  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Nerd to your friends list

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spruett001 I completely agree with you. The old NGC holders are very bad. When I browse ebay for new coins one of the things that stops me from buying is the old NGC holders. I want to see the NGC designer of that time


That's interesting...
I personally am a big fan of the old NGC holders. Sure, the new ones are much better, but I still like the old design. We each have our preferences.
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