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To my untrained eye,that looks like AT= artificial toning. John1  |
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I love toned ASE's BUT this one looks like it had a fight with a blowtorch....and lost |
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And yes, this looks like a blowtorch to me too.
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I have to look at it this way, if it weren't for people sending modern bullion coins for grading the cost to grade worthy classic coins would likely skyrocket. I'll bet bullion keeps the lights on...
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A little ridiculous for PCGS to pass this thru . I'm leaning towards AT .  |
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Dave700x LOL. I would definitely get a 1995W or last year's 2019S reverse proofs slabbed. Probably also a truly spectacular toner, to lend weight to the authenticity of the toning. I know people who specifically collect ASE toners, and the premiums really are huge. Otherwise, I really don't get why anyone does it, but yeah, let's keep that REALLY quiet. Edited by twslisa
10/29/2020 1:30 pm
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Stupid price for almost any modern. Oh wait... Coinfrog already said that.  |
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The toning has the appearance of AT to me as well, but the spots by the sun
make me think it's legit. I have no idea how that toning was created naturally.
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its had 25 years. possible it's legit toning from poor storage, or a set up to tone situation, but the time is there for it to have happened naturally. my issue with it really is the sellers other items have outlandish toning also, which has me at "suspect" for everything as artificial regardless of the age, especially that rainbow toned 1883 cent. Also, if you check that listing for the 1883 cent it becomes obvious the seller is enhancing the pictures too. there's no picture of it on the cert lookup, But its like a $50 coin tops, so his asking price means he's less than scrupulous to begin with.... http://americansilvereaglecoinsms.i...n-fl3-01.php No history of it for sale on PCGS so no way to follow the history beyond that website I linked that shows it and says they got it in 2015. only says "Current PCGS Registry Sets: This cert is currently in a user's private Set Registry Inventory" it's not worth $5000. not by a long shot. Edited by Big-Kingdom
11/02/2020 1:20 pm
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it's not worth $5000. not by a long shot. The morgans look legit. Some stores focus in on toners because they know people pay a premium for the colors (they're asking for pretty hefty premiums, but maybe someone has that kind of money to burn). That said, the bright yellow on the 1883 cent (also shows up on the raw photo) looks 'off" to me. Could just be inexperience—I haven't seen that color on Indian Head cents; doesn't mean it never happens. If you want to see wild colors, check out the Jhon E Cash site.. Some toners look pretty mangy head-on, but angle them against the light and they just light up. PCGS, Heritage, and some other sites like to do some fancy photographic trick that captures and shows the color (the way they flatten it out looks kind of fake to me, but the colors they show are actually there). |
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Another thing about this coin that doesn't seem right. The smooth, gradual transitions of the toning on the obverse is usually from storage against a surface (like an envelope) that has sulfur or something similar in it, right? But the "target toning" on the reverse is more like you'd see if it's been in an album or maybe the end of a pre-formed coin roll (do they even put ASE's in coin rolls?). How would this coin have to have been stored for it to tone naturally like this? |
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In an envelope with another coin on top of it. I have one almost identical in patterning that came from a local collector. I know with 100% certainty that it's naturally toned.
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Well, I'll trust your word on that, GrapeCollects. It's a beautiful coin.
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By the way, if anyone is interested, because the coin is on my watchlist, I got an email that they'll discount the price by $500. Still way out of my price range but if you collect toned ASE's... |
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