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Pillar of the Community
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@GrapeCollects, I very well could be wrong, but I can't see clear evidence of circulation here. I see a really mushy strike and possible overdipping, though. Look FortCollins, when it comes to grading your probably IMO the most trusted name on here. I do think it is circulated though. Behind the mushy strike I'm decently sure I see light wear on the leaves on the reverse and the eyebrow. Also the collection of hairlines by US in Pluribus would be very weird on an MS coin. As well as the rim dings by Unum. |
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I'm at au58 as well, bit of hairlines above the head, possibly in front of the face, reverse has a lot of loss of luster in the fields, and lots of rim ticks.
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I'll be in AU territory as well. Barely AU58 if it straight grades. I have a feeling those hairlines didn't get the pass, and if they're that prominent on true view, probably more so in hand, so possibly AU Details
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I have a feeling those hairlines didn't get the pass, and if they're that prominent on true view, probably more so in hand, so possibly AU Details That's a very good point I didn't consider, AU Details for me now |
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The range of grading opinions so far intrigues me.
Reasonably good strike with luster under the toning.
I see numerous tiny dings and nicks.
I also see slight wear under the toning in Lib's hair, especially over the ear.
I am also at
AU-58
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Rest in Peace
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I'm at AU55. There is far too much rub in the fields ,especially the reverse, to be an MS coin in my opinion.
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the 80(P) have average to above average strikes. this one I would say is average, maybe a tad light on the breast and ear area. luster is broken across both sides, eye appeal is average. surface preservation is not quite there for a MS64 coin with multiple hits, marks & abrasions and field scuffs on both sides. I have this one at MS63 just short of 64
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I sure wouldn't argue with a details designation here.
It's one ugly coin. It would be a hard pass for me on a bourse floor, regardless of the slab. It's a common date below MS-65, and there wouldn't be any reason to settle for one this ugly. It's basically slabbed shrapnel.
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The discoloration around IGWT is a pretty clear indication of circulation wear. I'd grade it AU-55, maybe 58 if luster in-hand is stronger than what the pictures show.
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so this coin grades AU Details Cleaned. It is not a run of the mill 1880 though . It is the rarest of the true clashed E's the 1880 VAM 33A |
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This is a VERY non-expert observation, but I'd have said AU Details—cleaned. I think I see a lot of tiny parallel scratches in the fields, esp. near US in PLURIBUS and around the eagle on the reverse.
I see a small amount of rim chatter (on the cheek, for example) and some deeper scratches in the hair and across the eagle's breast; if this is MS I don't think it would rise above 64. It doesn't look like there's a ton of wear, but I'm also not seeing a lot of luster which, to me, suggests it's been dipped/cleaned as well (but I've seen photos of coins that look "flattened" like this that have a TON of luster in hand, so sometimes it's the lighting/photography).
Set me straight. What am I missing?
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Pillar of the Community
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yes I can tell it had been over dipped and probably wiped somehow
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I whiffed on this one. I'll quietly slink off and get my eyes checked now.  |
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