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1799 Draped Bust Dollar For Grading And Details Determination

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 Posted 12/01/2020  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
I'd say a solid, problem-free VF-20.
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 Posted 12/01/2020  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shoover4 to your friends list
It's an auction and I would be bidding $1475 to take the lead. I'm leaning heavily against it at this point.
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12/01/2020 8:22 pm
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 Posted 12/01/2020  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list
shoover4,

Does the coin speak to you? I mean, does it keep saying "Buy me please!" to you? Will you love it in the morning after the auction is over?

If you don't bid, will you kick yourself after the selling price is revealed?

I'd hate to be in your shoes...

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 Posted 12/01/2020  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
It's a nice coin, but you do take a risk buying a raw coin. Here's a similar slabbed Bust dollar that sold on Heritage recently for about the same amount.

https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-doll...bnail-071515
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 Posted 12/01/2020  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
That's $1,475 including the juice? How much time?
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 Posted 12/01/2020  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shoover4 to your friends list
matthewvincent,

It does speak to me and has since I first saw it. I suspect, though, that it has been cleaned and that PCGS would mark it as such. If it weren't for that, I'd certainly be a buyer.

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 Posted 12/01/2020  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
I wouldn't pay that kind of money for it raw. That's with my money and ymmv.
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 Posted 12/01/2020  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list
Suspicion or fear?
Two questions remain:
Is it genuine?
Is it cleaned?

I say "Yes" to genuine and "No" to cleaned.
Other may now give their opinions.
How much time remains on the auction?
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 Posted 12/01/2020  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
I agree with the grade of VF20, but the coin is over priced for a raw coin. It is a nice looking coin. From the photos the coin does not look cleaned. Take the same money and look for one in a TPG holder as there is much less risk.
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 Posted 12/01/2020  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
It's real but the price with BP is way over the top.

I paid $1375 for my 1800 which was PCGS/CAC VG 10, but that was 5 years ago, but all the same

The 1799 is a very pretty coin, though, and if money's not an issue and you're not worried about getting out of it later, then it might not be such a bad price. That being said, my rule of thumb when dealing with any coin from the era over $500-$1000 is that unless it's a series about which I have a high degree of knowledge (e.g. Large Cents) I will buy certified every time, not only to protect me, but also to protect resale value.
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 Posted 12/01/2020  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Too pricey for raw, no upside especially after grading fees even if it goes straight.
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 Posted 12/01/2020  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list
Here is another 1799 VF20: https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-doll...n-071515-new
Sold for $1,440 all in.
Personally, I would never buy raw coins that run well over $1,000. For the simple reason that there are plenty of graded coins available in the same price range and similar eye appeal, but with less risk to you as buyer.

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 Posted 12/01/2020  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shoover4 to your friends list
I do know the pre-1800 coins well (plus the capped bust halves), so I'm comfortable buying them raw. Part of the enjoyment for me is finding them raw and doing the evaluation. I don't worry about the cost so much and don't mind even overpaying a bit if I really like the coin. The only coins I typically buy post-TPG are high-grade ones that are nearly impossible to find raw (e.g., an MS-64 1835 bust half that had toned bronze).

The auction ended a few minutes ago and I did not bid. Sale at $1450, which is about right I think.

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 Posted 12/01/2020  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Good comments. Agree, price sounds right.
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 Posted 12/02/2020  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
this is a nice coin. the overall eye appeal and even wear really make this stand out. I have it at a solid VF20 and I dont see any reason why this coin would details.
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