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1799 Draped Bust Dollar For Grading And Details Determination

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 Posted 12/01/2020  4:00 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add shoover4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I'm thinking about buying this coin and would like your input. In particular, I'm interested in the grade it is likely to get (I would submit it to PCGS) and whether it is likely to get a Details designation.

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 Posted 12/01/2020  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At first glance it looks genuine.
Color is good. No real distractions.
Is the edge lettered (as it should be?)
Should be "no problem."
Fine 12 (just a guess).

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 Posted 12/01/2020  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The copperish-coloring at K-11 on both sides is accurate as shown?
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 Posted 12/01/2020  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What do you suspect, Coinfrog? As I am color blind I only see a "light patch."
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 Posted 12/01/2020  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just asking if the photos accurately represent the coin as it appears to you, or whether these copperish areas are exaggerated or diminished in these pics.
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 Posted 12/01/2020  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shoover4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The edge is lettered as expected. The light patches are the lighting rather than the coin. The coin is for the most part evenly colored throughout, and there is no copperish coloring anywhere. I am confident that the coin is authentic and that it has not been patched or anything of that nature. I have a pretty good sense of the grade, but am primarily concerned about cleaning (I think the scratches are not enough to warrant Details for a coin that old).

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 Posted 12/01/2020  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you. If indeed these odd copperish areas are just a fluke of photography, than I'll say VF-20 or possibly 25.
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 Posted 12/01/2020  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You might want to look at this site and run through the identification of the dies just to make sure its real. I have an excellent Chinese fake in silver from this date.
http://www.earlydollars.org/wizarddate3.htm
The slabbed Half dollar No G farce: Download No-FG half vs. Grading Company Claims report here:
https://tinyurl.com/yalrstjz or higher resolution version: https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8

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Wow, Earle42! That's a fantastic site. Thanks!
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 Posted 12/01/2020  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for this interesting reference. I make no claim of expertise on the legitimacy of these dollars - just offering a grade opinion.
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 Posted 12/01/2020  8:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
HAH! When you are over two hundred years old you'll have a few scratches as well. The "scratches" are not distracting.
But now I worry about my own example.

How much is the purchase price if I may ask?

I hope mine is real and a VF-20.
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 Posted 12/01/2020  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If that's the actual color, then you're in trouble.
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 Posted 12/01/2020  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say a solid, problem-free VF-20.
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 Posted 12/01/2020  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shoover4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's an auction and I would be bidding $1475 to take the lead. I'm leaning heavily against it at this point.
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12/01/2020 8:22 pm
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 Posted 12/01/2020  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
shoover4,

Does the coin speak to you? I mean, does it keep saying "Buy me please!" to you? Will you love it in the morning after the auction is over?

If you don't bid, will you kick yourself after the selling price is revealed?

I'd hate to be in your shoes...

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 Posted 12/01/2020  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a nice coin, but you do take a risk buying a raw coin. Here's a similar slabbed Bust dollar that sold on Heritage recently for about the same amount.

https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-doll...bnail-071515
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