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1799 Draped Bust Dollar For Grading And Details Determination

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That's $1,475 including the juice? How much time?
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 Posted 12/01/2020  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shoover4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
matthewvincent,

It does speak to me and has since I first saw it. I suspect, though, that it has been cleaned and that PCGS would mark it as such. If it weren't for that, I'd certainly be a buyer.

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 Posted 12/01/2020  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't pay that kind of money for it raw. That's with my money and ymmv.
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 Posted 12/01/2020  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Suspicion or fear?
Two questions remain:
Is it genuine?
Is it cleaned?

I say "Yes" to genuine and "No" to cleaned.
Other may now give their opinions.
How much time remains on the auction?
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I agree with the grade of VF20, but the coin is over priced for a raw coin. It is a nice looking coin. From the photos the coin does not look cleaned. Take the same money and look for one in a TPG holder as there is much less risk.
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It's real but the price with BP is way over the top.

I paid $1375 for my 1800 which was PCGS/CAC VG 10, but that was 5 years ago, but all the same

The 1799 is a very pretty coin, though, and if money's not an issue and you're not worried about getting out of it later, then it might not be such a bad price. That being said, my rule of thumb when dealing with any coin from the era over $500-$1000 is that unless it's a series about which I have a high degree of knowledge (e.g. Large Cents) I will buy certified every time, not only to protect me, but also to protect resale value.
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 Posted 12/01/2020  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Too pricey for raw, no upside especially after grading fees even if it goes straight.
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 Posted 12/01/2020  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is another 1799 VF20: https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-doll...n-071515-new
Sold for $1,440 all in.
Personally, I would never buy raw coins that run well over $1,000. For the simple reason that there are plenty of graded coins available in the same price range and similar eye appeal, but with less risk to you as buyer.

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 Posted 12/01/2020  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shoover4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do know the pre-1800 coins well (plus the capped bust halves), so I'm comfortable buying them raw. Part of the enjoyment for me is finding them raw and doing the evaluation. I don't worry about the cost so much and don't mind even overpaying a bit if I really like the coin. The only coins I typically buy post-TPG are high-grade ones that are nearly impossible to find raw (e.g., an MS-64 1835 bust half that had toned bronze).

The auction ended a few minutes ago and I did not bid. Sale at $1450, which is about right I think.

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 Posted 12/01/2020  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good comments. Agree, price sounds right.
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this is a nice coin. the overall eye appeal and even wear really make this stand out. I have it at a solid VF20 and I dont see any reason why this coin would details.
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