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Are There Any Reliable Mail Order Sources For Coins

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 Posted 12/09/2008  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list
Oh duh...sorry!
You're in luck in that I hear many proof/mint prices have been cut substantially recently--good luck!
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 Posted 12/09/2008  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T J to your friends list
Sorry.i wasn't very clear.the coins I'm interested in are:
Indian cents
lincoln cents
Buffalo nickels
Mercury dimes
i know that the above are not in proof/mint sets but they are coins you can easily get burned on if you don't know what your doing.I've ordered some books on the varieties I'm interested in and I'm currently reading through them.
it also occurred to me if I start with proof/mint sets I could complete some great sets:
Ike dollar
Susan b. dollar
Sacagawea dollar
Kennedy half
not to mention filling some big holes in the Lincoln Cent collection.
i know that is kind of going all over the place but,i thought it might be a pretty safe way to start.
Thanks,
T J
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 Posted 12/09/2008  11:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list
I guess you can ask the people on the community..
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 Posted 12/10/2008  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add docsfishn to your friends list
Welcome to the forum!

For the Lincolns and Kennedy half dollars you can just roll search (easy way to fill some holes). Once you get 50 posts you can buy coins here. You can also post what you are looking for or are willing to trade for.

Keep reading and posting and I'm sure your collection will grow!

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 Posted 12/10/2008  08:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Please understand, I make this post as much for those we'll never see reading it as I do for you, T J.

First and foremost, it must be said that there is no safe place to buy coins unless you know what you're looking at. I do not say this to demean you, but to emphasize the fact that numismatics is, more than any other hobby, a game of knowledge. Evaluating coins is a completely subjective activity, and opinions differ even among the experts. We each have our preferences for type, grade, color and the like, and I speak from experience when I say that one's own preferences can easily get in the way of one's opinions.

With that said, there are more than a few online vendors who carry almost-universal approval among knowledgeable collectors. I'm not going to list them all (hopefully a lot of that will happen here without me), but I will emphasize a couple of things:

1) Even the best among us make mistakes. You'll occasionally buy a dud from the most reputable dealer, or a coin which doesn't meet your standards even though it seemed to at the time. A solid return policy is imperative with any vendor you choose to do business with.

2) Buy nothing unseen which you aren't buying for bulk value. See #1 above.

3) Trust no photo completely. I say this from the standpoint of an enthusiastic coin photographer; it's very darn difficult for me to get a truly accurate coin picture and pretty easy to deceive even the experts with regard to grade and condition. The following coin was purchased in a PCGS MS63 slab:

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I became suspicious, inspecting the coin in-hand, and did something to it involving a certain liquid which cannot be named in polite company. This was what lurked under the relatively dull surface:

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This coin was purchased from a dealer whom I recommend without hesitation, encapsulated in a slab from the most reputable third-party grader. Yet, it had obviously been brushed, hard, and then doctored to hide the brushing.

The point is, had I not known the things I did when I received the coin, I'd have believed it to be a valuable addition to my collection rather than a $100+ mistake.

4) Know what you're buying. That means knowing how it should look in a specific grade, and knowing what it's worth in that grade. You can only learn this from experience. Allow me to recommend James F. Ruddy's Photograde Coin Grading Guide as the best way to gain grading experience quickly, and a free membership at Heritage Auctions (Google for a link) to get access to the world's largest database of real-world coin sales as the best way to determine value.

Do not believe published price guides. Many (most) are created by people with a vested interest in high coin prices, and reflect inflated pricing over true value. The only true measure of a coin's value is what collectors like you and I are willing to pay for it.

5) Don't be afraid to ask. That's what Coin Community is here for. We count among our membership some genuine experts in every facet of collecting, and our mission as a community is to help develop the next generation of collectors. We want to help, and the only dumb question is the one which goes unasked.

Of course, when you ask you're going to hear fifty different opinions. That's the fun of it all. But there's a lesson to be learned from that, as well - if we're unanimous about a certain opinion, you can take it to the bank, but if we differ it's likely because the "right" answer isn't black and white. So....

6) There are a lot of gray areas in numismatics.

I'm pleased to welcome another addition to our wonderful hobby. Collect what you like, ask every question you can think of, and remember that this is the only hobby where you can say that the more money you spend, the more money you'll have.
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 Posted 12/10/2008  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list
Dave, that there is some good stuff, with an example to drive the point home!
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 Posted 12/10/2008  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kabiye_Lady to your friends list
Well so much for the "Welcome" sign! Where's the "Boo! Run for your Life!" sign?

Just joking, but I get kind of depressed seeing stuff like that. Yet another reason to stick with my Sac's!!
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 Posted 12/10/2008  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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Well so much for the "Welcome" sign! Where's the "Boo! Run for your Life!" sign?


Here you go:

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I'm not trying to be pessimistic, regardless of how it may seem.

The trouble is, people tend to "discover" new hobbies and dive in without much preparation. Numismatics is a particularly rocky pond for such diving, because there's potentially a lot of money involved and the morally-challenged among us take advantage. The proportion of shady dealers is pretty high, especially given the anonymity possible on the Internet, and it's imperative that a coin collector be well-informed before spending their precious money.
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 Posted 12/10/2008  10:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list
My closest coin shop is 25 miles away & they don't have anything I want to buy anyway. There is a once a month show in Atlanta I have heard is pretty good, but it's 100 miles form me so I haven't gone yet. That leaves me with ebay & various online dealers. I won't buy anything without really clear pictures, & I'm really thrifty(cheap) so it has to be a good deal also. What it all boils down to is a good month for me is when I can find ONE coin to buy. The majority of my coin collecting activity involves this forum.
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 Posted 12/10/2008  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Dave, that there is some good stuff, with an example to drive the point home!
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 Posted 12/10/2008  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T J to your friends list
i want to thank everyone for the help/advice I appreciate it.
i agree this is a hobby that you really need to know what your doing or very bad things can happen.thats why I'm currently reading as much as I can about it (both on this site & books)
so,i think I will start out with proof & mint sets and see where that takes me.
Thanks again,
T J
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 Posted 12/10/2008  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Good deal, T J. There's good price competition for Proof/Mint Sets; average folks collect them like commodities, but there's plenty to go around, so there's usually price pressure on the sellers to keep them from getting too expensive.

There are a *lot* of reputable sellers of these. Do not hesitate to ask about any potential deal here; someone (probably a lot of us ) will be happy to offer our experiences.
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 Posted 12/11/2008  05:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list
I have seen particular dealers recommended here on the forum. Having said that, I think that I or anyone else might be somewhat reluctant to make a recommendation, since everyone's experience may be different.

There are three dealers that I have ordered from on a regular basis and two others just an occasional order. While there have been a couple or disappointments, on the whole I have been pleased.

One thing you might do is choose a dealer who has coins you like and place a small test order. If that is satisfactory, then you might go bigger.
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 Posted 12/11/2008  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
I'd just like to say that SuperDave's cautionary essay is extremely well written and should be mandatory reading for anyone just entering the hobby. Well done!

Suggestion: perhaps Forum Mom & Dad might consider creating a new Forum section to contain selected, thoughtful posts on collecting issues. It could be a reference section of sorts, with entries of general interest that would be selected by the moderators. SuperDave's post is a perfect example of the type of article that merits a "reference" designation.
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 Posted 12/11/2008  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list

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perhaps Forum Mom & Dad might consider creating a new Forum section to contain selected, thoughtful posts on collecting issues

That is one thing I love about the NGC(Collectors Society) forum that I occasionally lurk on- they have a section titled "What You Need To Know"(WYNTK) and I have found it to be incredibly informative. For instance, a few of the thread titles are as follows- " inherited Coin Collections", "Original and Altered Surfaces, Both Raw and Slabbed", "What Does A Dealer really Pay For A Coins?", "Grading and Buying Coins Based on Images", and "The Difference Between Cleaning and Conservation".
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