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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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And the bad news is, that it is illegal to own it if it is real.   CoopHome : 1974 Alum centsEdited by coop
02/22/2021 6:14 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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If aluminum, do not dismiss the possibility that is a fake, struck from fake dies made by the explosive impact method.
Reverse field looks suspect to my eye.
Would need professional investigation to prove, either way.
The detail does look rather flat in places, which suggests to me that the die hubbing pressure was too low, or that the die pressure was too low.
I have seen genuine die pressure trial strikes that have flat features. Normally with the genuine die pressure trial strikes, the coins get re melted by the Mint.
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Pillar of the Community
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Now don't shoot the messenger, I'm just throwing this out there for consideration. Anybody that knows about castings and has a small aluminum foundry can make these - the reverse especially made me think this as a lot of the details are distorted. Shall be interesting to see the outcome of this ..............  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Theres an aluminum 77 on ebay right now. Theres many possibilities with this coin. First you need to get an accurate weight. I dont think its plated, it looks like aluminum. To me the reverse looks sketchy the most. |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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From the pictures, it does not look like a casting to me; to my eye, the edges of all of the details are too sharp.
If is is a casting, look for evidence of an injection point casting sprue that has been filed and burnished off.
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If it is plated and comes in about 1 gram, then what was plated? NOT plated, even if the weight is within .01. Or am O missing something?
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I have to ask myself if someone would exert the time and effort to counterfeit this coin and simply throw it out there for a chuckle. With no gain. Create a working die? Forging it. Smelting the metal. CASTING! Just wondering. I am definitely no expert. The impossible has been known to happen. Maybe the person was friends with the Senator that pocketed it. Positivity when it comes to the unknown. How can it be completely ruled out? Too many questions but lots of speculation.
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Best to keep it on the low down though. Someone may come and take it. Ask if you can compare it to the one in the Smithsonian. The only one known.
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 United States
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It looks a lot like this fake I have in my archives.  The Chinese make these and sell them for a few bucks a piece. Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here)See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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If OP's coin was genuine I don't think it would have that much wear and chatter . After it escaped the mint a real 74 Aluminum would have been picked up by anyone , not just a collector and kept in a small box on top of their dresser in pretty much MS condition  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Agree with others that the reverse looks just too suspicious. The base of the Lincoln Memorial does not follow a straight line. Also agree that this type of cent in circulation would have been snagged and thus not have shown so much wear and tear.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Edited by macmercury
02/22/2021 9:47 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Seems like the coin has a lot of die scratches that they copied from. But note the real deal would be VEDS. (Very-Early-Die-State) Meaning a fresh die. They only struck a few of these with these dies, so the look of the die crack on the right base on the OP's coin, seems to be out of the die state range to me.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Thanks to macmercury, we have the link.
Pictures identical, no need for further investigation.
Nominated as a 'souvenir', the marketing suggests Chinese manufacture to my way of thinking, so as to avoid being an illegal sale.
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New Member
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Thank you for all your input and insight!
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