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1840 O Seated Liberty Quarter, No Drapery, Grade Request

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 Posted 06/23/2021  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bchill27 to your friends list
I apologize for the pics. These are the pictures provided when I bought it. I sent it off to PCGS yesterday for grading, and the gold shield, which includes a TruView photo shoot. Thank you for your comments. In person, the coin does lack luster, but I could not identify hairlines or the rounded edges that typically come with dipping. It is more of a dull haze.
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 Posted 06/23/2021  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
No drapery, mint mark to the far left, Briggs Obverse 1 Reverse 1 Eagle has no toungue like previous years.

AU55 may go details for an old cleaning, hope not.
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 Posted 06/23/2021  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Again, images are washed out, impossible to grade.
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Agreed with AU55, but without better pics I am inclined to think details.
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I agree with Frog as ungradable from images.
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 Posted 06/28/2021  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
I also agree with Frog, photos too bright to get a feel for what the actual surfaces look like.
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 Posted 07/15/2021  02:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bchill27 to your friends list

1840-O-Seated-Liberty-Quarter,-No-Drapery,-Grade-Request
1840-O-Seated-Liberty-Quarter,-No-Drapery,-Grade-Request

The PCGS verdict is in. Here are their photos.

AU details, damage, surface smoothed. What a punch in the nads. Anyway, I did notice that the mint mark appears to be doubled. Anyone care to tell me if that is a good thing, or if it doesn't really matter, due to the damage review?
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These last photos show areas of possible smoothing better, sorry to say it's definitely going to be a details when that occurs. Still a really nice looking quarter.

I checked Briggs Seated quarter book again, definitely Obverse 1 Reverse A, the 8 is triple punched though very tough to see (Die state A says it is very faded and hard to tell), nothing mentioned on the mint mark doubling, but from it's position it's has to be Rev A, (Die State is not A on the reverse as that would imply the mint mark was worn to the point of being hard to see), the doubling could be some minor Strike Doubling. This coin does exhibit a touch of surface granulation which leads me to believe it came out of the "New Orleans Hoard" which were quarters known with dull and/or corroded surfaces. That would also explain a need to smooth the surface in areas in hopes of improving the eye appeal. Those coins were also known to be softly struck in the head, surrounding stars and dentils on the obverse.
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 Posted 07/15/2021  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Yes, that left obverse field does look suspicious.
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Thank you, West! I appreciate the response! It's nice to see there are people with this level of knowledge about certain coin types.
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Here is the mint mark up close...
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Another whizzed coin. Your blow up of the mint mark clearly shows the brush pits.
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 Posted 07/15/2021  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bchill27 to your friends list
So if the surface looks bumpy like this, then that means it was whizzed? I thought whizzing would leave longer striations vs. Bumps.
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I don't think it's been whizzed, it does have that look, but this date is also known to be pitted and rough, you can see the smoothing areas above Liberty's head and in the dark area on the left side of her right arm, looks like a deep gouge may have been worked on to cover it up. The comment from the "New Orleans Hoard" came directly from Larry Briggs Seated quarter book, he is the well known expert on this series.
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 Posted 07/15/2021  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list
I think the details grade was unjust. It does have eye appeal though.
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