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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The Sundman family's motto should be "Ripping off Novice Collectors for Four Generations".
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
8938 Posts |
As others have said, pretty much anywhere else is cheaper. I have no idea what they have their prices at, but right now I've been selling Peace dollars at $32, Morgans at $34. I can almost promise any other dealer, myself, and a few other forum members included, are cheaper no less than 100% of the time. Edit: Holy hell, they're asking $80 each.
Edited by GrapeCollects 08/19/2021 10:40 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4692 Posts |
Quote: Holy hell, they're asking $80 each. But they are sold out at the mint.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts |
Quote: I hate this company with a passion that defies words. Not strong enough statement.
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Moderator
 United States
189222 Posts |
Well, back in the early 1980s I received Lincoln wheat cents and Buffalo (Bison) nickels from them on approval. Filled most of my folder (common) holes that way. The price was not bad (was not great either), but I was just a kid with no access to an LCS so I was happy. However, they were (are) notoriously difficult to stop. It finally ended after moving halfway across the country. 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10284 Posts |
Quote: Against my better judgement I took advantage of a special offer by Littleton and give their approval service a try. Not my advice but the way I look at it and I would imagine it works like this. 1.You subscribe and have to include a payment method to pay with some kind of credit card or paypal type account in your Littleton account. 2.They send you coins and an invoice and eventually charge you. 3. You have to return the unwanted coins within a time frame. (At your expense? I don't know?) _________________________ So, if you want to stop them, first you will have to return the coins that you will be billed for. Next, I would contact my credit card co. that Littleton has on file and get a new credit card with a different number. Then immediately cancel my Littleton approval service and do it in a way that I could prove it was done. Keep an email copy and be sure to get a response or photocopy of a registered letter. Be sure you have proof you cancelled the approval service and effective date. (I don't know the procedure Littleton requires to cancel) Anything that comes in the mail from them afterwards, I don't think you are required to return. I have heard merchandise, (not my legal advice) that you did not order that comes in the mail is yours to do what you want with it. They don't have an account to charge on file. Mailings might stop. I would bet that the mailings will continue, even if you cancelled. They are persistent, it is how they operate. It wouldn't surprise me though if Littleton started sending less friendly and more threatening collection agency letters instead of coins. Your credit rating could be at risk too. This is one kind of shark tank I don't swim in.
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Moderator
 Australia
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The business model of companies like this relies on getting you on their mailing list, and keeping you there. Their "perfect customer" is someone who doesn't read the fine print on their "special introductory offer" advertisements and is then too timid, too stubborn or too ignorant to try to get off their mailing list again. Obfuscation around the exact process of getting yourself cancelled helps too.
I'm always surprised that this business model is still legal.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would bet that the mailings will continue, even if you cancelled. They are persistent, it is how they operate.
One of the guys I buy coins from ordered a common date wheat holefiller. Whenever he tried to call and mentioned canceling the mailings they would hang up on him.
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Pillar of the Community
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Sound horrible and classic "Granny bait" type advertiser.
We have one here called Bradford Exchange and I am sure they are multinational based in America, they sell all sorts of overpriced chintzy junk like plates with cats on them, Thomas Kinkaid monstrosities and some really awful coins.
They offer sentimental pap like a clock that salutes the brave airmen of the RAF or something, that is tacky and made in China.
The worst are their coins which are those cheap gilt covered cupro nickel crowns from Tristan Da Cunha worth a few pence at most. They play up the gold appearance and cover (Which is minimal) and the designs. They invite you to buy them at $39 each and then a regular price of $89 each. Also you pay a $10 Postage and Handling fee per coin!! (It would cost $4 normally). The coins are BASE METAL crap with a value of 25pence (49 cents) and about 20 cents worth of metal in them.
Absolute daylight robbery.
These companies exist for stupid people who like bright shiny things and are too lazy to realise you can buy the same stuff from a legitimate coin dealer at a much lower price.
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Valued Member
 United States
465 Posts |
I sent the approval coins back with a signed note telling them I want to discontinue the approval program. I'm anxious to see if it's the end of it or the beginnings of a headache.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1776 Posts |
I would not buy any coins from Littleton. That said, I was at a coin dealer this weekend and he had these great slab holders. They had nice slotted foam inserts and held any brand (ANACS, PCGS, NGC including fatty) holder. I asked where he got them and to my surprise they were from Littleton! I am currently awaiting my shipment from Littleton, a place I thought I would never purchase from.
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Valued Member
 United States
465 Posts |
I've never bought any supplies from them but I noticed their albums and supplies are not priced bad. I wonder how the album quality is.
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Valued Member
 United States
465 Posts |
Littleton update- to be fair to them they appear to be honoring my request to discontinue their approval service. They sent a letter rebuffing my claim they charge too much. They say their coins are accurately graded and are high quality for the grade while many other dealers are over graded. The coins I received were pretty baggy uncs and priced 4x the catalog prices. I won't be ordering again from them but I have to say it was easy for me to stop service.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3662 Posts |
Just a couple points to ponder. There are solid criticisms, and Littleton isn't on my favorites list, either. That said, there also is a role they played in making the hobby what it is today, and the history isn't all bad. When Littleton got its start, coin collecting was just expanding to a mass market. Not many people had local dealers or knew much about coins. Coin shows were rare, and so was long-distance travel. Littleton's business model brought coins to places where coin shops were difficult to find. They also greatly expanded public awareness of collecting. In that day, the alternative was to prepay for sight-unseen coins from dealer advertising in magazines, not be able to inspect them before purchase, and hoping you could return them if they weren't as described. Littleton flipped that, by allowing prepurchase inspection of the coins. Even today, they have that same advantage over ebay, along with an another advantage, some assurance that what they sell is at least going to be genuine.
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: Not many people had local dealers or knew much about coins. Coin shows were rare, and so was long-distance travel. Littleton's business model brought coins to places where coin shops were difficult to find. Me. This was me way back. 
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