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Coinfrog, Sold this one just a bit ago for $105, roughly 4x the value of a standard nickel with the same grade and designation.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Geez, I should check mine for steps. Anytime I've ever sold one I got $5 for it at auction. And all mine come from BU rolls, no fakery involved.
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tropicalbats,
I've sold several in the last few months, and graded they are going for approximately 4x the value of the standard coin in the same grade and designation.
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I would like to know how a TPG knows it was a mint error and not an "assisted" error. John1  |
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John1,
Because the two don't look the same.
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Bedrock of the Community
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@Sticky - glad you're doing well. This is an undefined, open-ended, easily-replicated coin collecting category that begs fakery. I only wish you the best, and only wish your customers the wisdom of logic.
Edited by Coinfrog
11/11/2021 7:30 pm
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Coinfrog,
Time for you to hold up your end of the bargain, as you agreed to earlier in this thread. If it's so undefined and so easy to replicate, you will have no issue with making a few of your own, and submitting them to one of the top TPGs for grading. I'll be looking forward to the grading results.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I don't consider ANACS a major TPG, but that's just me. Can you show me some PCGS and NGC examples? |
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Ahh, crawfishing now I see? I figured that's how it would go, and expected both less. Honestly ANACS is as good or better than PCGS or NGC. They are definitely more consistent in their grading. If you want to see NGC and PCGS slabs of Black Beauties, they will be called improperly annealed or sintered planchet. Google is your friend.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I yield to your educated insight on this critical issue, and ask that you will help teach the rest of us about these coins, perhaps with further graded examples or even a written treatise. A sincere offer.
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I would like to see an "assisted" BB photo next to a PCGS BB photo here on CCF. The assisted one would need to be a higher end one so it looks like a real one. Are any members able to do that? I think it would be very helpful. John1 |
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 I'm sick and tired of telling you non believers that Black Beauty's , Improperly Annealed , and Sintered Planchets truly do exist mainly with 1959-P Jefferson's and some 55's & 58's . |
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Coinfrog, How many examples do you want to see? Here are a few of my slabbed ones from the 4 different years that I've acquired so far. I did see a 1957 yesterday. I've got several others and several raw ones as well. 1954  1955  1958  1959  |
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Sintering and annealing are, by definition, heating processes. At what point it happens during the planchet production process may determine the look of the coin. I think it would be fairly easy to replicate the color of these coins, but doing so without damaging the mint luster would be difficult if not impossible. Improper heating processes (for whatever reasons) prior to the strike may be a requirement.
Edit: I've seen quite a few BBs over the years. Only the gunmetal blue ones appeal to me personally. But, I always keep an eye out for them.
"Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
Edited by Bump111
11/12/2021 1:54 pm
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ANACS used to label these coins as "Improperly Annealed Planchet". Now they're calling them an "Improper Alloy Mix".
What changed? I know there's been (or used to be) some question as to the source/cause of the color differences, but has something recently come out to clarify this and cause the change in their labeling?
Has ANACS ever explained what their criteria is for getting this label?
What does "Improper Alloy Mix" actually mean? Is it an actual improper mixing of the alloy while still molten, such as with "Woodies" or an improper combination of metals i.e. something other than 75/25 copper to nickel ratio?
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