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Valued Member
United States
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Hum I havnt heard that term in a long time my dad uncle and cousin were all collectors they each collected different items when I was little my dad had a collection of coins Like30+ years ago of coins when he was little I have no idea what happened to them Now kicking my self for not learning or showing interest. The coins I'm talking about would now be 60-100 years old now.
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New Member
 United States
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Coinfrog, where you at?  |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
I have raised Australian copper nickel coins to red hot, on the element of an electric stove, and dropped them into cold water, to exactly reproduce the color as seen in the slabbed coin pictured.
Very easy for anyone to to do.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I'm fairly certain these do exist as an error.can you fake them? Of course like anything else. I read a thread on here recently about one that was taken in for an XRF and came back as improper metal content. I don't know who it was but it was one of are more veteran members so I believe these do exist as true errors, improperly annealed coins.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It's difficult for me to find even a TPG's certification of a black beauty to be accurate. I'm sure there are a good amount out there that were truly improperly annealed during the minting process and came out a genuine "black beauty", but there have to be hundreds if not thousands more that are altered by heating. It's just too easy to replicate. I'm not trying to take away from your find, congrats on getting it certified! Its just not something that I could sit and think about whether or not the TPG was right or not without an XRF testing. Like I said though, what matters is that you like the coin and you're enjoying it. -CH27 Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
Edited by CoinHunter27
11/10/2021 6:05 pm
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New Member
United States
37 Posts |
CH27,
When you have a real one in your hand, it's very obvious. The fake/altered ones are easy to spot, they just don't have the proper characteristics.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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 with Slickyboyboo , I'm not going to keep telling you non believers ; True Black Beauty's do exist . Any questions ?  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5887 Posts |
Slicky,
Good to know. Once again, nice find!
-CH27
Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
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New Member
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
I have not the slightest doubt that black beauties exist,
but to be sure, I would prefer them to be slabbed, just to feel assured about authentication.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10635 Posts |
Paint me as a non-believer.  |
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New Member
United States
37 Posts |
Coinfrog, Sold this one just a bit ago for $105, roughly 4x the value of a standard nickel with the same grade and designation.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6116 Posts |
Geez, I should check mine for steps. Anytime I've ever sold one I got $5 for it at auction. And all mine come from BU rolls, no fakery involved.
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New Member
United States
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tropicalbats,
I've sold several in the last few months, and graded they are going for approximately 4x the value of the standard coin in the same grade and designation.
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Moderator
 United States
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I would like to know how a TPG knows it was a mint error and not an "assisted" error. John1  |
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