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Can we see the other side? Just your normal 1981 reverse with full 4 claws. Can't really tell if it was minted in Canberra or Wales. Certainly no depression or impression on the reverse that would account for the metal sticking out on the obverse if that's what you are looking for.  |
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Watch out Lizzie, the Reaper is coming for you!   |
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United States
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Interesting, though I'm not convinced those are die chips and not damage.
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10/28/2021 09:39 am
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What a monster, congrats!
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PMD most likely. Die damage that severe is very unlikely (plus other examples should have been found by now).
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Some better pics would be good. But I'd agree with Neal. PMD. Watch your top knot
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Damaged coin. You can see where something made impact on the Queen's neck and pushed up (deformed) the metal into that raised, irregular ridge. It then was circulated some more where the metal on the raised ridge has been smoothed out a bit.
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PMD most likely. Yes,its probably 80-90% PMD. In the early days of ebay in Australia there were several 'shed jobs' similar to the above Coin,they melted down a similar coin and added drips to the target coin. Some were very Pro. done and very hard to pick without high grade Pics or Scans. So as mentioned earlier better Pics. needed. |
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something made impact on the Queen's neck and pushed up (deformed) the metal into that raised, irregular ridge Extra metal is sitting on the surface. Definitely not created by gouging. That dark area is just a shadow. Quote:
they melted down a similar coin and added drips to the target coin More plausible. Thought about the possibility of it being some kind of solder but didn't think it likely because the extra metal looks to be exactly the same colour and consistency as the rest of the coin. Looks like cupro-nickel and not tin/lead. Just how easy is it to melt a coin and drip molten metal? Seems like a heck of a lot of effort would have gone into creating this monstrosity just for it to end up back in circulation. Surely some sucker would have forked out some hard-earned mula if the coin was offered on ebay. Edited by MachinMachinMan
11/02/2021 12:20 am
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Just how easy is it to melt a coin and drip molten metal? Apparently very easy to do but I haven't seen them since the 1990's,early 2000. Its not solder,the metal from the donor coin is the same as the target coin. The fake 1934 3d overdate trails was some kind of silver used by Dental Technicians but again may have been metal from a genuine 3d. Its not a subject most dealers would talk about other than point me to the scrap bin. |
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Some better pics would be good. Quality of these aren't any better. From different angles though.   |
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Just how easy is it to melt a coin and drip molten metal? Not very I don't think - 1862 British Indian rupees have various dot patterns (reasons unclear) that are reportedly faked with little drops of melted metal. |
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Pics are still not good enough. Please do not rotate them also. The metal looks like it has been folded over. Either due to PMD or maybe a planchet issue. Not a Cud. And not melted/dropped metal. Watch your top knot
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11/15/2021 05:29 am
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Just noticed this on ebay,similar to the PMD Coins on ebay when it started in Oz. Never can be 100% sure but at the time,1990's,Dealers were au fait of the process of artificially introduced ' Cud'. The technique probably goes back to when Coins were first Minted in Oz.,just that ebay gave the tricksters a market place for the naive.  |
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