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1939 Lincoln Wheat Cent (Button On Lincoln's Lapel?)

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 Posted 11/22/2021  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sarge50 to your friends list
It was funny! Are we on to something?
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 Posted 11/22/2021  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
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 Posted 11/22/2021  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sarge50 to your friends list
@FortCollins.got what you requested posted! We on to something?
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11/22/2021 10:39 pm
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 Posted 11/23/2021  10:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
@Sarge50, The initial photos made me pause, because the front line of Lincoln's coat looked sharper than the surrounding design. Unfortunately, it's not the 1939 re-engraved die variety.

The 1939 RED-001 is a weird and rare variety. I've only seen one in real life, and never located one in the wild. For reasons that nobody can explain, a production die was hand-modified to strengthen the coat line, the period between "E" and "P" and the lower grains inside the left wheat stalk.

There are known re-engraved dies for the 1953 proof Lincoln Cent, 1938 proof Jefferson nickel, 1951 business strike Lincoln Cent, and 1971 business strike Lincoln Cent. There are suspected retouched dies for other dates, as well.

Anyway, I had hopes that you snagged one of these critters, but it isn't one of them. Thanks for taking and sharing the photos! Keep hunting, though.

I can't answer your question about the coat button. Given the known re-engraved die for the date, anything is open for discussion.

EDIT: The re-engraved dies are all extremely clumsy retooling. They obviously weren't done by engravers. I've never heard a logical explanation for their existence. The best guesses are that a bored production floor employee used an unknown tool to carve the dies during down time or that the engraving was actually an attempt to clean grease from a die. Neither or these really answers the question. I could see cleaning the coat line, but the period between the letters? The 2004-D high and low leaf Wisconsin Quarters is another re-engraving mystery. The Inspector General's Report stopped short of calling it die vandalism, but clearly said that something damaged the die on the production floor.
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11/23/2021 10:56 am
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 Posted 11/23/2021  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sarge50 to your friends list
@Fortcollins.thank you sir! Now you have my mouth watering and on the hunt for this RARE coin! I have a huge coffee can (10,000) of 1939s I'll be
re-examining Looking for that GEM with "strengthened" coat line, dots and left bottom wheat buds!

Anyone else have an explanation for the button on the lapel? I hope that production line employee though it was funny to put a button their and I found something NEW! I have touched it with acetone and it's not going anywhere and I know ALL can see the distinct "0" on his lapel! What the heck is it? I'm sure some one will say a burst air pocket but there's no eruption sight inside it, a die chip.don't see how it that would make a perfect "0".
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 Posted 11/23/2021  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Well if it were struck like a button onto the coin:
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Would like this. A big incuse mark into the coin and now show anything on the opposite side. But post strike something could move the metal but a contact mark and alter the surface. The metal splashes away from the contact site.
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When looking with a scope, this that are really small, really look huge on the scope.
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 Posted 11/23/2021  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list

Quote:
I thought it was funny....

Funny how , funny like a clown
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 Posted 11/23/2021  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sheldius to your friends list
Could it be a dropped letter?
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 Posted 11/23/2021  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sarge50 to your friends list
@Sheldius.that's one I hadn't thought of? Maybe?
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 Posted 11/24/2021  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Looks too small to be a dropped letter issue.
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 Posted 11/24/2021  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sarge50 to your friends list

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 Posted 11/27/2021  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sarge50 to your friends list
@FortCollins.got what you requested posted! We on to something?
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 Posted 12/05/2021  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sarge50 to your friends list
@ftcollins. http://goccf.com/t/411546#3533087

Sir, ever Sense you told me about the re-engraved die variation I remembered that I had thrown a 1937 Lincoln Wheat cent into my error tube like a year ago but just thought it was PMD until we discussed this on the forum!

It took me a while but I dug it out of the tube and it's is similar to what you described.a die being cleaned out or an employee re-engraving a LWC! I say that because this would be so hard to do at the level this 1937 is done without any errors outlining Lincoln! It does not have the enlarged dot or the highlighted left wheat stalk but the deep groove all the way around Lincoln is where my curiosity is about the re-engraving or die cleaned of grease causing a deeper detail on a Lincoln's outline? You tell me if this is PMD or Re-engraving? I know the coin is a mess but haven't Acetone it or anything yet?




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 Posted 12/05/2021  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Willburton to your friends list
Back to the 39. I'm looking at the 39 RED and it looks like a proof coin. Does anyone know if it is or isn't?


Ok so after some research the 39RED is a common proof coin. I found two on ebay. Here's one.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1939-Linco...303988283675
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12/05/2021 9:46 pm
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 Posted 12/06/2021  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sarge50 to your friends list
@wilburton..so your saying my 1939 with the button is a proof?
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