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1939 Lincoln Wheat Cent (Button On Lincoln's Lapel?)

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 Posted 11/22/2021  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would you be willing to post clear photos of the following areas of your coin:

The front line of Lincoln's vest, roughly from the bottom of the bow tie to where the point of the "9" in the date aims at the vest
The dot between "E" and "P" of PLURIBUS
The lower part of the left wheat stalk, just above the stem

Thanks!
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 Posted 11/22/2021  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sarge50 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@fortcollins, will do sir.wait 1
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 Posted 11/22/2021  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sarge50 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Dearborn.sorry the boss had me for a few minutes! Pics on their way!
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 Posted 11/22/2021  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sarge50 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It was funny! Are we on to something?
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 Posted 11/22/2021  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sarge50 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@FortCollins.got what you requested posted! We on to something?
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 Posted 11/23/2021  10:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Sarge50, The initial photos made me pause, because the front line of Lincoln's coat looked sharper than the surrounding design. Unfortunately, it's not the 1939 re-engraved die variety.

The 1939 RED-001 is a weird and rare variety. I've only seen one in real life, and never located one in the wild. For reasons that nobody can explain, a production die was hand-modified to strengthen the coat line, the period between "E" and "P" and the lower grains inside the left wheat stalk.

There are known re-engraved dies for the 1953 proof Lincoln Cent, 1938 proof Jefferson nickel, 1951 business strike Lincoln Cent, and 1971 business strike Lincoln Cent. There are suspected retouched dies for other dates, as well.

Anyway, I had hopes that you snagged one of these critters, but it isn't one of them. Thanks for taking and sharing the photos! Keep hunting, though.

I can't answer your question about the coat button. Given the known re-engraved die for the date, anything is open for discussion.

EDIT: The re-engraved dies are all extremely clumsy retooling. They obviously weren't done by engravers. I've never heard a logical explanation for their existence. The best guesses are that a bored production floor employee used an unknown tool to carve the dies during down time or that the engraving was actually an attempt to clean grease from a die. Neither or these really answers the question. I could see cleaning the coat line, but the period between the letters? The 2004-D high and low leaf Wisconsin Quarters is another re-engraving mystery. The Inspector General's Report stopped short of calling it die vandalism, but clearly said that something damaged the die on the production floor.
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@Fortcollins.thank you sir! Now you have my mouth watering and on the hunt for this RARE coin! I have a huge coffee can (10,000) of 1939s I'll be
re-examining Looking for that GEM with "strengthened" coat line, dots and left bottom wheat buds!

Anyone else have an explanation for the button on the lapel? I hope that production line employee though it was funny to put a button their and I found something NEW! I have touched it with acetone and it's not going anywhere and I know ALL can see the distinct "0" on his lapel! What the heck is it? I'm sure some one will say a burst air pocket but there's no eruption sight inside it, a die chip.don't see how it that would make a perfect "0".
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 Posted 11/23/2021  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well if it were struck like a button onto the coin:

Would like this. A big incuse mark into the coin and now show anything on the opposite side. But post strike something could move the metal but a contact mark and alter the surface. The metal splashes away from the contact site.



When looking with a scope, this that are really small, really look huge on the scope.
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 Posted 11/23/2021  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I thought it was funny....

Funny how , funny like a clown

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Could it be a dropped letter?
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@Sheldius.that's one I hadn't thought of? Maybe?
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 Posted 11/24/2021  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks too small to be a dropped letter issue.
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