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A Seated Dollar I'm Considering For My Type Set

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 Posted 11/28/2021  2:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shatsi to your friends list

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I'm pretty sure that's a Seated dollar after reading "one dol." in the reverse.


You're right, my mistake, its fixed now. Thank you for pointing it out.
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 Posted 11/28/2021  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shatsi to your friends list

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I think you also showed us a bust quarter in a TPG holder that looked cleaned. I also had trouble distinguishing a cleaned coin from one with original skin when I first got here 5 years ago. I got my predilection for cleaned coins beaten out of me by the members of this board. I learn the hard way.


I do have a hard time distinguishing cleaned coins with naked eye, most times I can tell from a picture if it's not doctored. What signs do you see that makes you think its dipped?
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 Posted 11/28/2021  2:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list
I think it straight graded XF-45
looks lower AU probably with A old dip but coin looked to nice to details.

The hardest part about figuring out what will detail looking at coins in hand is knowing what the TPG's will do. They can be so inconsistent by grader , day and coin.
That I think is what is the biggest issue learning to grade.
Buying raw online is a crap shoot anyways .
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 Posted 11/28/2021  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
I was thinking AU50-55 as well.

Personally I like it. To me these coins are iconic enough that one with this eye appeal would be satisfactory for me.
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 Posted 11/28/2021  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pristine2 to your friends list
Feels like ti may have had an old cleaning, but I've seen many such coins graded straight.

I'd guess AU50.
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 Posted 11/28/2021  4:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
Not a huge fan. Common date, cleaned, and a few distracting contact marks. I would wait for another example. I am also on the hunt for Seated dollars as well

AU-50 Details in my opinion, but it probably graded straight.
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 Posted 11/28/2021  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list

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What signs do you see that makes you think its dipped?

It's easier to see in the reverse as you see a whole mess of halos around the devices. That could also be remaining luster but it is white looking and not bright as you would expect luster to be. It is more subtle in the obverse but you also see the halos around all the stars, the date and the base of the rock that liberty is sitting on.
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 Posted 11/28/2021  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list
also note the toning that only remains in the tight spots: shield on both obverse and reverse, and revenants left in the crevices of some of the reverse lettering.

AU50, Details, though they probably straight graded it.
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 Posted 11/28/2021  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list
Looks like it was darkly toned before the cleaning. The toning remnants in the shields are a distraction. I'd pass.
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 Posted 11/28/2021  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
I'm not a fan. It might have graded AU50 but it's not a good example IMO. It does look like it's been "worked on" in some way.
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 Posted 11/28/2021  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Must agree the reverse has been cleaned at one point, but a straight grade is likely. I think it's a nice type coin at the right price.
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 Posted 11/28/2021  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shatsi to your friends list
I definitely didn't think it was cleaned, I really thought it was a good example with nice details, it's hard to find Seated dollars with this even toned look without distracting marks on the coin. Dealer was asking $900 for it.
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 Posted 11/28/2021  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
I'd say buy a coin if you like it initially, and can't walk away from the deal. Don't buy the coin if you pass it the first time and think about it later. A first impression says a lot and you don't want to get buyer's remorse. There are nice, original examples of Seated dollars out there, you just need to wait a bit longer for them to turn up.
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 Posted 11/29/2021  01:45 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
It is not worth $900 imo. Be patient and you will find a nicer example for less money.
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 Posted 12/01/2021  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shatsi to your friends list
I decided to pass on this coin, thank you for all the input in helping me decide.

As for the grade its AU53 by NGC.
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