| Author |
 Replies: 43 / Views: 3,075 |
Page 3 of 3
|
|
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
7513 Posts |
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
62064 Posts |
|
|
Pillar of the Community
Canada
3328 Posts |
The error ref site says the die finger scrapes against the anvil die, there is no reference to it scraping the obverse die, it simply says die scrapes occur on the obverse and can be caused by many things. So die scrapes possible but is it possible for the feeder finger to damage the hammer die?
Edited by Wrekkdd
12/18/2021 9:28 pm
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
573 Posts |
Quote:
The error ref site says the die scrapes against the anvil die there is no reference to it scraping the obverse die, it simply says die scrapes occur on the obverse and can be caused by many things. So die scrapes possible but is it possible for the feeder finger to damage the hammer die? You're assuming the anvil die is always the reverse and the hammer die always the obverse but that's not necessarily always the case. In any event, the previously cited photos show both obverse and reverse examples of Feeder Finger Damage so it's clearly a known event. |
|
Pillar of the Community
Canada
3328 Posts |
Die damage can be caused by any thing, including Feeder Finger Damage I'm not sure the minting process for dollars but as far as I knew the anvil die is almost always the reverse but I'm probably wrong. I'm fine with calling it Feeder Finger Damage or any other for of die damage. Don't Wana think about it any more lol, it is a very cool example in any case. |
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
62064 Posts |
I've just not seen FFD on any Sac dollars to be sure. But there was a case that was polished so sever that is removed the sub devices. The FFD example in the past were rougher looking on the coins:  More irregular is shape.    Just not seeing that on this coin. But the result may have been the die scratches that were left over. (I just don't assume with out more information yet on this on the dollar coins. |
|
Valued Member
United States
354 Posts |
This definitely a "finger feeder" issue. It's consistent alignment under the device leads to the planchet being damaged prior to the strike.
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
62064 Posts |
But to be Feeder Finger Damage, the ejector had to be struck on. This alters the shape of the working feeder that scratches the dies. This is not a pre damage issue on the planchet. This happens after damage to the die and will occur on coins until the die is either replaced, or the die has been polished. Thus the pattern off the damage to the die has not been determined with a altered die issue yet. Thus I hold off assuming on this one. It still look more like die polishing lines so far. Not as sever as I mentioned on an earlier comment.    These rough edges outside of normal, will damage the dies (one or both) during the next strikes until this issue is fixed. |
|
Valued Member
 United States
172 Posts |
I just want to quickly thank everyone for taking the time to weigh in on this coin. Though there doesn't seem to be a true consensus yet to the cause I have definitely found the debate very enlightening. This type of community interaction is one of the big reasons why I really enjoy collecting.
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
62064 Posts |
Sometimes things have answers. Sometimes it take a while to find the right coin to determine where that puzzle piece fits in. Wondering it PCGS had a slabbed example. Went over there and on the first year on the fist sets of images. Bingo! There was one on their site:  Same search found a triple struck Sac image as well:  (Always keep looking)Edited by coop
12/20/2021 2:28 pm
|
|
Pillar of the Community
Canada
3328 Posts |
Compared to the OPs coin that one way less effected. I gave up on trying to figure this one out. I'm assuming an over polished combined with some sort of die damage is a good enough explanation lol. An awesome coin IMO, I'm surprised we haven't seen more examples from this year.
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
62064 Posts |
The direction is not right for a FFD issue, but there may have been some polishing to try to remove that event. That maybe what we are seeing.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
Canada
3328 Posts |
I wonder if there is several varieties out there with different variations of die damage from the same year. This one in particular,I mean how could you miss what's going on with the coin. This could be a damaged die or even a doe that was not properly made it that's just speculation and theory. I hate the idea of an error not being labeled as anything specific but my mind spun so much around this coin that I couldn't think about it any more lol. If I could go through thousands of dollars from this year and make observations about the progression of the die error then I would but over here in Canada I have only ever come across 1 USA dollar lol so kinda out of the question for me. I just really like the creepy look of this coin and it reminded me of the 1990 5cent over here with no conclusive definition as to exactly what caused the error and that is from people with much MUCH more experience then me in this field. I did have a good time discussing this coin though:) gotta love a good debate that does not get heated.
|
|
Moderator
 United States
96837 Posts |
Edited by Dearborn
12/20/2021 5:27 pm
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
62064 Posts |
I know what you mean about GIF's not used that often:  |
|
Page 3 of 3
|
Replies: 43 / Views: 3,075 |
Page 3 of 3
|
First Page
Previous Page
Posted 12/18/2021 10:29 am
