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Genuine Double Tailed 20 Cent Coin Australia

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 Posted 12/22/2021  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list
Please post a clear photo of each side plus one of the edge.
Sounds like it may be a Magicians coin but will need photos .
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 Posted 12/22/2021  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doubletailer4215 to your friends list
I can take some photos, but tell me how do I get both sides to be in pic at once, so as it's certain that it's not just pics of the same Platypus? I can do this in morning, but want it to be a legit pic
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 Posted 12/22/2021  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list
You can hold it in front of a mirror and shoot at an angle but please take an individual photo of each side as well.
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 Posted 12/22/2021  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
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I can take some photos, but tell me how do I get both sides to be in pic at once
As suggested above, you can use a mirror, as in this example...

http://goccf.com/t/413291
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 Posted 12/22/2021  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list
first guess would be a Magicians coin. To have the same side on both sides of the coin, is almost impossible. You would have to have 2 obverse, or two reverse dies, in the same press. and I don't think that is possible to do.
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 Posted 12/22/2021  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list
To have two dies with the anvil and hammer die having the same design for the same year I think is impossible (at least to my knowledge).
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 Posted 12/22/2021  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coaster to your friends list

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Please post a clear photo of each side plus one of the edge.
Sounds like it may be a Magicians coin but will need photos .



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I can take some photos, but tell me how do I get both sides to be in pic at once, so as it's certain that it's not just pics of the same Platypus?

You can achieve this with the use of a mirror.

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 Posted 12/22/2021  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list

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Please post a clear photo of each side plus one of the edge.


Yes,the photo of the rim is important as there should be a feint circular join mark,Pro's are good at making it nearly invisible thou.
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 Posted 12/22/2021  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list
There have been a handful of genuine double-headed/double-tailed Australian coins but most are likely to have been smuggled from the mint and the double-headed 2007 5c piece is probably the only one that has been found in circulation.

Get the weight anyway - if it is a hollowed out/magician's coin then the weight will likely be off.
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 Posted 12/23/2021  05:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nealeffendi to your friends list
I notice that several of the posters (Canadian) have dismissed this as virtually impossible. That might be bias showing as I know that US mints (and Canadian as well?) have the presses set up to make inserting the obverse and reverse dies only possible one way. Australian presses are not set up that way and there are a number of known examples of genuine double heads or tails (such as the 5 cent coin of 2007 or the 1957 penny). Markn (Purple Penny) also mentioned some time back about a slabbed (ANACS) double tailed 2 cent coin so even the TPGs have handled then
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 Posted 12/23/2021  07:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coaster to your friends list
Double headed/tailed coins are available on the internet ... take your pick!

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 Posted 12/23/2021  07:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list
If there is a genuine example of a double heads or tails coin, I simply have not seen one. I don't dismiss that it's possible, I'm not aware of the minting process for all world coins. To me it does not make sense that when producing the dies to have hubs for both the anvil and hammer die with both reverse and obverse hubs. If they do that elsewhere I don't know about it. Just giving my 2 cents as iv never seen or heard of a real example in Canada and the USA. I'd like to see an authenticated double header or tails coin.
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 Posted 12/23/2021  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list
@nealeffendi I haven't seen the 1957 penny - when did it last sell?
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 Posted 12/24/2021  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nealeffendi to your friends list
There was one in an auction about 15 years back (Status I think). Went for about $5000 if my memory serves me correctly and the catalogue mentioned that it was one of 2 known. with that few it was either a stuff up that was quickly spotted and the batch scrapped (but somehow a couple were missed) or it was done on the sly and smuggled out. It wasn't Unc so not done on the sly to sell to the few collectors back then so maybe if done on the sly it was for use in 2 Up?
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 Posted 01/03/2022  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list
Ah okay - I definitely haven't seen one come up in the last 14 years or so.

Good theory on the sneaky two-up coin!
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