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1919-S Sl50c - Guess The Grade

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 Posted 04/20/2022  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
MS-64
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 Posted 04/20/2022  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GMS5 to your friends list
I'll say MS-65
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 Posted 04/20/2022  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
That's an MS65 all day long in my eyes.

I don't see it higher than that as the strike could be much stronger, but it's lustrous and relatively mark free I don't think it makes MS66 but it definitely has aspirations there. It's a big value jump from 64 to 65 and a huge leap to 66.

For an early date (1919) it's very nice IMO.
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 Posted 04/20/2022  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Lots of little dings on Lib's left leg.
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 Posted 04/20/2022  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
I'd say MS-65.
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 Posted 04/21/2022  05:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smat45 to your friends list
MS65
What a beauty!
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 Posted 04/21/2022  07:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list
From pictures, MS-65.
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 Posted 04/21/2022  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
The photos are a bit out of focus and have too much glare, especially the reverse pic.

LMDS obverse, EMDS reverse, slightly soft strike. Minor dings on Liberty's left arm and leg, on the sun, and in the field above the motto. The reverse fields are largely concealed by the glare, but do not show any evident contacts that would suggest a widely split grade. I can't see any evidence of circulation. Overall, pretty much a classic Gem BU. It doesn't have the blotchy toning that so many of the early UNCs have, and the eye appeal is solid. Solid MS-65. That's a pretty rare bird for a 1919-S.

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 Posted 04/25/2022  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list

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...hard to see surface details clearly





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 Posted 04/25/2022  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
Now, for the moment of truth that will probably surprize many:




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 Posted 04/25/2022  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
One of the reasons I wanted to send this back to PCGS was because no PCGS-taken photo is on file. My limited home photography setup obviously makes the true surfaces more more difficult to portray.

The seller strongly felt that this coin should qualify for a bump to a 65+. But I must factor in grading, shipping and insurance costs roundtrip etc.

The other issue is that The Greysheet does not provide pricing for plus grades. So, where do I find CAC+ prices for this coin so as to justify the 'potential' incremental increase in value that may not even happen vs the additional related costs incurred no matter what...?





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 Posted 04/25/2022  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Congratulations!
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 Posted 04/25/2022  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
The most important question I failed to pose is "Could this coin meet the minimum requirements necessary for a MS65+ CAC designation upon a regrade?
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 Posted 04/25/2022  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add psuman08 to your friends list
CAC does not factor in + grades.
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CAC does not factor in + grades.


On a somewhat related note I recently contacted the editor for the Greysheet; he indicated that the inclusion of + grades may become an integral part of their pricing hierarchy: nothing definite yet...

This could possibly have some remote bearing on CAC's decision to consider + grades in light of the sometimes arduous task of finding them stemming from the lack of a convenient and reliable point of reference for these upgrades etc.
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