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1999 Lincoln Penny No Mint Mark Possible DDO Or Qdo

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 Posted 06/17/2022  06:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list
Might be beneficial to post a couple sharp images taken at a slight angle of the feature(s) in question--perhaps a shot from the lower right and one from the upper right. Taken at an angle, not vertical. The idea is to get a sense for relief/texture. At this point, I'm seeing a post-strike issue--the coin didn't leave the striking chamber in this condition.
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 Posted 06/17/2022  07:08 am  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list
It is a combination of things due to plating issues. As John1 told you, most looks to be from zinc rot. There is no hub doubling here and the coin is not worth more than face value. Here are a few links.

Plating disturbance doubling. https://www.error-ref.com/other-forms-of-doubling/

Split plating. https://www.error-ref.com/split-plating/

Zinc rot. https://www.error-ref.com/zinc-dete...ncoln-cents/
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 Posted 06/17/2022  07:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Reds_brother18 to your friends list
10 4 I'll get some pictures like you mentioned this evening when I get home. Just because I'm curious I have to ask, how are you certain the coin didn't leave the striking post like this? I know it's "dirty",but I can see four T's, on the second T in trust, two I'd and two N's in the word IN, and three L's in liberty. Surely I'm not the only one seeing it?
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 Posted 06/17/2022  07:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Reds_brother18 to your friends list
Lol so many seem to be certain as if there is no possibility of this being something never before seen. I look forward to taking the pictures this evening. Let's all hope this is some unicorn of a coin so we may all be blessed with it's comings
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 Posted 06/17/2022  07:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list
Reds_brother18...

Looking forward to the new images. Please understand, you have the coin in-hand and can view it from any angle in any lighting. You can use magnification in any way you prefer. All we have are the static images you post. Again, eager to see what new pics you come up with. Thanks.
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 Posted 06/17/2022  08:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list

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Lol so many seem to be certain as if there is no possibility of this being something never before seen.



Many collectors have spent decades to know what we currently know about errors. There is only a set amount if things that are possible to happen during the minting process so narrowing down. What's possible and what's not is easy. When it comes to everything else it can only be damage. There are some mint employee made errors but they are all well documented and I can say for sure this is not one. You can post some more pictures but I think the consensus from everyone is damage.

Edit: I'm sure Coop will be along eventually, if you would like to learn about errors and the striking process the Coop home page forum has tonz of great info.
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 Posted 06/17/2022  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list

with above.
In addition - there are finite ways an error occurs on a coin, but infinite ways to damage one. From what I have seen - every damaged coin is a unique damaged coin, never have I seen identical damage done to a coin, but errors are repeatable (such as doubled dies, RPM's and OMM's to name a few. Then there are "die events" such as cracked or broken dies, planchet flaws, annealing issues, laminations and such.
To nail down your particular 'damaged' coin and the source of how the damage occurred, is difficult to say the least. To recognize a coin with 'zinc rot, or a stain is easy, it may not be identical - but similar. And THAT is what we go by in most cases. Sometimes we are wrong but most times we are not - after all we are not paid professionals here and above all else, we do not have the coin in hand to observe what is going on with it. There are a few people here on this site that are paid pros (such as Mike Diamond) that can at time offer their opinion on an coin submitted here, but not always.
If you really think you have something VERY special - you have the option to send it to a TPG and get it evaluated that way - at a very expensive cost, of course.
If you do sent it in, we only ask that you follow-up here with the results so we may all benefit from it.
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 Posted 06/17/2022  10:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
Sorry but it's 100% clear it's not a DDO. Doubled dies just do not look like that.
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 Posted 06/17/2022  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
When the zinc is exposed, the zinc can start rotting. This happens in stages:
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You will often notice the gray color on these areas:
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This will allow oxygen to get to the zinc and swell on the coin, or eventually allow a hole in the plating. Not a good thing. Spend these before the end process happens. If they are exposed to acid, this accelerates the process. Just a spender coin. If one a variety coin, then it becomes a problem coin.
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Avoid these, and look for an example with out the split plating.

CoopHome: What is split plating?
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 Posted 06/17/2022  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Zinc rot can create all sorts of coincident shapes, like animal figures in the clouds.



to the CCF!
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 Posted 06/17/2022  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin rejector to your friends list
@Reds brother.... If you believe you have something special, feel free to take it into your local coin shop/dealer & get their opinion.
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 Posted 06/18/2022  02:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list
What's a "qdo"?
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 Posted 06/18/2022  04:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Quad DDO?
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