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1937 George VI You Versus PCGS

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 Posted 08/07/2022  08:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheColorofMoney to your friends list
The marks on the cheek are scrapes\bag marks. It's the same on the reverse caribou.
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 Posted 08/07/2022  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
I'll say MS-63.



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 Posted 08/07/2022  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tripoli to your friends list
MS-64
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 Posted 08/07/2022  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list
I'd say MS63 but PCGS are not fans of marks on the devices so MS62 from them.

Cheers, Bill
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 Posted 08/07/2022  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list
...I'm in at MS-63

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 Posted 08/08/2022  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list
Very well played...congrats.

KK
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 Posted 08/08/2022  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Hard to believe, but congrats!
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 Posted 08/12/2022  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Yeah, congrats. With all the facial marks I had this one at MS-63.
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 Posted 08/12/2022  10:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheColorofMoney to your friends list
Even with Market Acceptable grading, I think at best it is MS64.
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 Posted 08/13/2022  07:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list
Probably how they saw this coin was technically a 64 but they raised the grade to a 65 due to the toning.
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 Posted 08/13/2022  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list
I saw this coin in the last RCNA auction or I think its the same coin and thinking it was over graded
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 Posted 08/14/2022  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list
What are we congratulating about?
Why the ebay link?
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 Posted 08/14/2022  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheColorofMoney to your friends list
papeldog

For Canadian George VI and Elizabeth, I see PCGS (and NGC) do a lot of this...

1. MS64 or MS64+ surfaces
2. Nice color
3. Net grade = MS65 or MS66 dependent upon the eye appeal of the toning

Heck, NGC does the same thing for US coins. There's an 1879 Seated Half that I posted here that NGC rated as MS67+. At best it is a MS66.

Wade

The coin is for sale on ebay. I am not advertising for them. I am discussing a coin they happen to have in inventory and pointing out the problems with the TPG assessment and result.

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 Posted 08/14/2022  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list
With any high grade coin, especially toned ones, you need to see it in hand. Lighting and angle can make such minor items look massive or hide major issues.

In general, the graders are offering an opinion, they will make mistakes (both ways) and you need to keep that in mind. Overall as I learn their standards, I am thankful they are around as it does make buying/selling much easier.

Thanks for sharing your examples and keep posting.
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