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What Is The Obsession With Morgan Dollars With So Many New And Intermediate Coin Collectors?

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 Posted 08/11/2022  06:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheColorofMoney to your friends list
The popularity of silver dollars has been discussed many times.

1. Big coin
2. Readily available
3. Marketing

I think if it weren't for Morgan dollars, there'd be much less of a numismatic market in the USA.
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 Posted 08/11/2022  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list
For me a large part of the appeal is the historical significance associated with them. The CC dollars take us back to the times of the wild west. You hold one in your hand and wonder if Wild Bill Hikok tossed this into a poker pot. Then they take you thru the turn of a century and the great industrial revolution of the early 1900's. I find the design elements quite striking and what is not to love about a large heavy silver coin?
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 Posted 08/11/2022  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cdncoins to your friends list
I love Morgan dollars. I like the design way more than the Peace dollar. George T. Morgan had massive talent. Check out other coins and medals he designed. He trained under William Wyon at The Royal Mint. The Wyons were renowned for their talented engraving during the 19th century.

As others have said, I like that I can get a nice big uncirculated silver coin that is over 100 years old for a fraction of the price of other coins in similar grades during that same time period. I like that many of these coins were stored for decades in bags, giving them all sorts of interesting tones. They were produced at five different mints, giving a nice variety of ways to collect.
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 Posted 08/12/2022  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list

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I have to admit:-
Conder101's reasoning happens to align with my way of thinking.

Mine, too.
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 Posted 08/13/2022  02:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HP2001PH to your friends list
I am a new coin collector and I also collect the Morgans. I can second Sap's opinion and also Conder101's opinion.

Its the first US American silver coin that I think is visually pleasing. I can understand that Americans love the earlier US coins just because of ... history, but I think their designs are far way from the European coins from the early to mid 19. century. I personally would never shell out large amounts of money for a capped bust or seated liberty (Look at this eagle! Looks like a rubber chicken!).

Also:

Its big.

Common dates can be had in nice conditions for not so much money, certainly less money than any other larger silver coin from the same era.

It evokes the Wild West era, which was culturally engrained in virtually every european kid growing up in the 20th century after WW2.

Lastly I guess, Morgans are easy to "learn". Thats nice if you are a new collector.
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 Posted 08/13/2022  06:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoffeeTime to your friends list

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1. Big coin
2. Readily available
3. Marketing


All three are true, but I think #3 is really driving these.
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 Posted 09/04/2022  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinnewcomer1 to your friends list
Glad to hear all the viewpoints - especially from those outside the US.

No matter what your taste I agree the attention on Morgans does draw collectors away from other series that offer comparative bargains considering mintages and survival rates. I am of the camp that thinks it better to invest in Two Cent, Three Cent Capped Bust, Seated Liberty Proofs, and (what I can afford) Gold dollars.

I agree in general that European design of coins generally has been better than most US coinage (there are exceptions - St Gauden's work of course and I think those that embrace our American Indian heritage do quite well design-wise). What is overlooked is the fine artistry of US Medallic artist from the late 19th into the 20th century and beyond as well as some of the commemoratives from the first half of the 20th century-- I think that is the area you will find the best designs from the US/

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 Posted 09/04/2022  3:01 pm  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list
I love Morgan dollars - they just have everything!

- an English designer who trained at The Royal Mint
- fascinating historical background (Anna Williams etc)
- associations with the Wild West: dealers in the UK heavily promote this!
- many dates available cheaply in EF / UNC, much cheaper than UK crowns of the same period
- can be collected by date, by mintmark and by VAM, so suitable for beginners or advanced collectors
- big and made of silver
- attractive design

My first Morgan dollar was an 1882-O that I was given as a teenager by some American friends of my parents'. I now have a complete date run from 1878 to 1904 (with at least one coin from each mint) and all three mintmarks for 1921. None cost me more than £100 and several were less than £10. The condition varies from AG to Uncirculated but for me that's part of the charm. I may start adding major varieties and mintmarks to my collection in the future.
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 Posted 09/04/2022  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list

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What is overlooked is the fine artistry of US Medallic artist from the late 19th into the 20th century and beyond as well as some of the commemoratives from the first half of the 20th century-- I think that is the area you will find the best designs from the US

Absolutely. I've always thought it a crying shame that none of the "classic commemorative" coins were actually issued for circulation, and that America's first circulating commemorative wasn't struck until 1976. Having mintages in the millions, rather than the tens of thousands, would have made them more affordable, more accessible, and more interesting to the broader coin collecting public. It's also created this odd false dichotomy in America between "circulating coins" and "commemorative coins" that has only recently broken down. Why can't coins be both?
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 Posted 09/04/2022  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
My third favorite neoclassic US coin design.
1. St Gaudens Double Eagle
2. Weinmann Half Dollar
3. Morgan dollar.

All three designs exclaim:
United States of America
at the top of it's game.
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 Posted 09/05/2022  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list

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and that America's first circulating commemorative wasn't struck until 1976
Technically 1932, AFAIK, but as that series 1) replaced the previous type, as opposed to being supplementary to it, and 2) lasted so long after the original commemoration date, it usually isn't counted as a commemorative.

(Of course the 1909 series has about as much claim to being commemorative as the 1932 series, but to the best of my knowledge the 1932 issue was intended to be explicitly commemorative and the 1909 issue wasn't.
And IIRC a few of the commemorative coin bills did propose a replacement of the previously circulating type, instead of supplementary issues - it's just that [aside from the 1932 case] none of those passed.)
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 Posted 09/05/2022  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list
I'm not a fan of Morgan dollars, nor Peace dollars. And I definitely do not collect them. My favorite early 20th century coin probably is the Walking Liberty half dollar followed by (no pun intended) Barber halves.
Regarding 19th century (world) coins in general, at least the ones I'm familiar with, I find the 20 Franc Ceres the most beautiful.
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 Posted 09/05/2022  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add David Graham to your friends list
At present I prefer the Peace dollars but my reasons are more personal. I got into coin collecting shortly after I got hooked on metal detecting. My father had some loose coins and notes he had accumulated over the years and among them was a Peace dollar. I asked how he came across it and was told my deceased grandfather must have obtained it when they were in America during the 50s. Having been born in 1970, silver circulation coinage in Australia had been consigned to history for several years so I had never handled silver coins. I did have some 50% silver pre-decimal coins from metal detecting but they were small compared to the Peace dollar. It was the first big silver coin I had handled and I loved the feel of it. That was several years ago and last month I finally obtained at melt value another Peace dollar for my collection plus a Morgan dollar. Both Peace dollars, although not top condition, still have a fair amount of detail whereas the Morgan dollar has had a very hard life with the bust and eagle just outlines and pretty unattractive. Maybe if I get a better condition Morgan it might sway me to the Morgan camp but I have a feeling higher grade Morgans don't come cheap.
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 Posted 09/23/2022  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FlyingTiger to your friends list
Because I just sold off some misc.coins that weren't Morgan's to get this awesome new Morgan key date.Not excited about the other stuff I let go but I am excited about my new Morgan dollar.Don't really care to much for any other coins.They just look the best to me.

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