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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I just had to subscribe to this topic so I can see what the experts say. Interesting and crude if genuine or not. I wonder if "EXP-2" stands for experimental, and by whom?
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New Member
 United States
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@ mr.t, experimental, example,are some things I was thinking the exp.2 meant.Birch is also spelled out under the bust.it is rather large at 52mm in diameter. the weight will be found tomorrow. ( my precision reloading scale doesn't go up that high).crude is a fantastic word to describe it.there is a lot of mystery involving Birch and his connections with G.W.i just hope "experts " who are not financially motivated take a look into this.it was with other real colonial coins of value.
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New Member
 United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks like a fantasy piece created by a fan of early coinage to me. Birch designed a cent with a wreath reverse and the Half Disme with an eagle reverse. This experiment appears to combine elements of the two coins attributed to Bob Birch.   
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
Edited by numismatic student 09/08/2022 03:04 am
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Moderator
 United States
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@fish, since best practice is to only start one thread per piece, I have merged your new topic in with this older one. Please click on the "report this post to the staff" link if you would like to request that the entire thread be moved over to our US Colonial subforum. At least so far the consensus seems to be that you do not have a coin here, so the final resting place may be in our exonumia subforum.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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New Member
 United States
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Thanks for all the informative info.does anyone of you cute experts have an answer as to why this cute fantasy cast would be made of silver.which is not cheap?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2004 Posts |
Gee, the pictures here make it appear to be copper or bronze. Looking more closely you can see the overall grainy appearance which indicates a casting. Are you certain it is silver and not some pot metal, pewter, or other base metal that had been plated ? Even still it is kinda cool.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2004 Posts |
Once you get a scale that can read to two decimal points, you can conduct a specific gravity test to see if the results indicate Silver as the metal or if you have access to a shop with XFR, they can tell you the composition.
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Moderator
 United States
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 to the CCF.
Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art
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New Member
 United States
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Mr. T, thank you.your comment is something truly informative and for those looking to learn like myself appreciate the small amount of effort put into a reply like that." Cute doesn't say anything other than "I'm lazy".
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It is definitely cast, rather than struck. How was the metallic content determined?
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Pillar of the Community
Russian Federation
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If it's really 52 mm (that is, just over 2 inches) in diameter, it's not going to be a real colonial coin for sure. Too large by far. The crude lettering and the absolutely cartoonish portrait don't help either.
It's obviously a fantasy piece but at this size (if true) I'm unconvinced that it was even intended to be a coin (even a fantasy one) as opposed to (e.g.) a coaster or a paperweight (that happened to be done in coin-like style).
I wonder how much it weighs. At this size I'd guess maybe about 100 grams? FWIW by the photos I don't get the impression that it could be silver; most likely some kind of bronze or brass.
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