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1880 S Morgan Dollar Amazing Toning

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 Posted 10/26/2022  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list
High AU to low MS--photos are difficult to digest.
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 Posted 10/26/2022  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
I think they gave it a 63 because of the toning. Otherwise, it would only make 62 due to the surface scratches.
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 Posted 10/26/2022  5:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fplagge to your friends list
What holder? the coin is in a holder but not encased.

It looks like all the scratches are on the coin.

Looks like a poor cleaning job to me.
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 Posted 10/26/2022  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list

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it's so Gorgeous to me


Coins are like wives, husbands, friends and lovers . "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".
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 Posted 10/26/2022  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list
As others have said, tough call. MS63/MS64?

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"beauty is in the eye of the beholder".

Very true. To each their own. It's a bit inconsistent and reverse is a bit dark for my taste. As long as you're happy!
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 Posted 10/26/2022  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DieselCountry to your friends list

It's a 65 graded by PCGS. It's not a fake, fraud coin, or any other as stated in comments. To all people always commenting about fake coins the truth is unless it's graded by PCGS, NGC I don't care if you got your family's coin collection from 100 years it ain't real. A family member could of bought a coin from A smuggler and they could of bought a coin from a countifiter who got from another countifiter. So don't have to blast people coins. I buy them cuz I like them not to please others. I share on here cuz a friend told me to join. But every coin every person has is a fake until it's authenticated in my book and that's the truth. Keep on collecting and sharing love






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 Posted 10/26/2022  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list
Nice. Without having the holder in-hand, it appears through the photos that the holder is a bit scuffed. Coin is very cool.

DieselCountry -- Please understand that you have the item in-hand and can view it at any angle under a variety of lighting sources. We 'out here' are left to look at static images--we cannot view the coin like you can. Again, nice coin.
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 Posted 10/26/2022  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DieselCountry to your friends list
I agree and a pic is worth 1000 words. I I collect cuz it's what I enjoy. Just like the first time my daughter opened a roll of halves and found a 90% silver Kennedy. She yelled I've got silver. Her joy made me so happy. That's what alot of people have gotten away from. Joy of collecting. Not for a get rich scheme. I love O mint mark coins A MS 63 O is a MS 70 in my book if I come across one. Cuz my grand mother family is from Louisiana. A million dollar coin has several different riches. Just like the natural tone on this coin. Rainbow is always seen. Not this color or style bits why I love it
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 Posted 10/26/2022  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list

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It's not a fake, fraud coin, or any other as stated in comments.


I just reread this thread and not a single inference to the coin being fake or a fraud was made by anyone.

If you post pictures of a coin here you are gonna get grading OPINIONS that will possibly be all over the map!

The poster has the luxury of seeing the coin in-hand. We are handicapped by having to look at pictures of a coin photographed under less-than-desirable conditions or entombed in a scratched up plastic holder, or both. Results are you get what you get! In this case the assessment fell between AU58 to MS66. That's a pretty big spread!

Obviously PCGS liked the coin and it met their standards for a 65 when it was graded. It is what it is.




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 Posted 10/26/2022  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list
Must admit, I'm a bit confused by this whole "fake" portion of the thread. Not sure what it's stemming from.

To each their own when it comes to collecting. Hate to break it to you, but just because a coin is in a PCGS or NGC slab doesn't always ensure it's authenticity. Yes, 99.9% of the time they are genuine, but counterfeits have wound up in major TPG slabs from time to time. Not to mention the countless number of fake PCGS slabs floating around these days. Pretty sure Jack Young just posted somewhere about that.

If slabs give you peace of mind, then more power to you. Studying, truly studying, a series and learning as much as you can about it, is just as good a guard against counterfeit purchases as a slab of plastic.
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 Posted 10/27/2022  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TobyJ to your friends list
Where the heck has the fake rant come from? No one commented anything negative about this coin at all!
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 Posted 10/27/2022  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TobyJ to your friends list
Also, I personally have had a coin authenticated by NGC to later be recalled as it was a counterfeit. It is VERY rare, but recalls do happen ;)
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 Posted 10/27/2022  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
its very rare that CCF members call counterfeit unless there is something that stands out and even then they typically ask for additional photos of certain areas of the coin to be sure.

since you have the coin in hand when posting a coin that has as many scratches as this does in the photos just note that they are on the holder in your comment. it will help everyone make a better assessment.

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 Posted 10/27/2022  2:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HP2001PH to your friends list

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But every coin every person has is a fake until it's authenticated in my book and that's the truth.


Wow the grading businesses must love people like you! #128517;
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 Posted 10/31/2022  09:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Nice coin, hard one to grade from photos.
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