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Charles 1 Silver Coin ID Help Please

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 Posted 11/28/2022  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wandering Circle to your friends list
Oh...There is indeed a silver version. Sorry...
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 Posted 11/28/2022  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade16 to your friends list
The weight is 4.3 grams and 30mm in size. The thickness is about 1.4mm. I found it at a garage sale along with two Roman coins. It appears to have a tiny piercing at the top that is very small and goes through to the other side. I listed the Cappadocia, Caesarea. Domitian. 81-96. AR Didrachm on this forum and got a thumbs up. I haven't listed the second Roman coin yet for opinions.
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 Posted 11/29/2022  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom Goodheart to your friends list
The weight is about right. The fact it was in a garage sale makes me somewhat suspicious since, if it was the real deal, it'd be worth several hundred dollars. The piercing would reduce that a bit, but it's not too noticeable. Unfortunately it's not really possible to be certain from a photograph. Might be worth getting it checked out? Great find anyway!
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 Posted 11/29/2022  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade16 to your friends list
By saying it was from a garage sale, I meant to say it came from a storage locker buyer that sold it to me at a garage sale, so it may have been part of a bigger collection. I also got 2 Roman coins at the same sale that are genuine. I think if someone made a copy, they would not want to try to pierce it and ruin the value if it was made to deceive. Also would it be possible to pierce a cast coin and have the reverse effect be a mushed circle? I would think a cast coin would chip at the opposite side of the hole. Thank you for your help.
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 Posted 11/29/2022  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade16 to your friends list
After examining the photo of the Classical Numismatic Group, LLC
Auction 103 coin photos of both sides, I have compared the dots and other tiny rim details to my coin under magnification, and the tiny details match up perfectly. If my coin was a copy, how would it be possible to make an exact detailed copy unless the person had the original coin in hand? I am showing photos of both coins. Notice the exact line of connected dots above the A and the dot area above the R. Also look at the small round dent on the letter E. both are identical. It appears to me that this could only happen if both coins were struck from the same die.The same tiny details on the obverse of both coins match also. The actual gold coin pattern has the exact same rim and other die details. I am attaching a photo of the genuine gold coin.
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 Posted 11/30/2022  08:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom Goodheart to your friends list
The silver medals were cast, the gold, struck. But yes, it's looking very promising Wade.
Can I be cheeky and ask how much you paid for it? Such things are scarce and the market for them, particularly in the US, is still quite small but I wouldn't be too surprised at a price tag of $1000 in this condition.

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 Posted 11/30/2022  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade16 to your friends list
Tom,
I got the coin along with 2 Roman coins for $10. Can you imagine that? I know that sounds insane now, but people come across things in storage lockers and they have no idea what value they may have. They take them to the local flea market garage sale and that is where I have found many great items for almost nothing. I collect coins and militaria items. I found a US Navy Seal Team Ballistic Helmet that sells new for $1400. I got it for $50 because the seller had no knowledge of military items. I would not dismiss the coin as a fake just because it came from a garage sale.
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 Posted 11/30/2022  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Keith67 to your friends list
I think I would spend the money, to get this coin authenticated
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 Posted 11/30/2022  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade16 to your friends list
Keith,
I may have to do that. My field of knowledge is in American coins. I have collected them most of my 76 years, but foreign and ancient coins are not something I have much knowledge of. I still get a thrill when I find a treasure. It keeps me looking for more!!
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 Posted 03/23/2023  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade16 to your friends list
I finally got the coin graded and certified. Here is the results.
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I finally got the coin graded and certified. Here is the results.
Excellent!
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 Posted 03/23/2023  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Safaga to your friends list
Congratulations on your find. Glad you got an expert to examine the coin itself. Turned out well for you.
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 Posted 03/25/2023  07:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom Goodheart to your friends list
Well, that turned out great! Very well done Wade! Shame there's no paperwork for it. It would be interesting to know how it turned up where it did.

As an aside, I'd grade this at about a British Very Fine. I'm not in the market for one, though I do collect this sort of thing. At auction I'd expect an estimate of £800- £1000 ($975-$1200), so keep it safe!
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This was a great find. Congratulations on having it authenticated.
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