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No Date Lincoln Memorial Cent Mint Error - Off Center Partial Brockage

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 Posted 12/22/2022  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list

I'll post better photos when I receive it. They are remarkably similar and likely made same time same place approx? The reverse looks like yours. I'm assuming yours weighs 3.11ish?

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"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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 Posted 12/23/2022  12:03 am  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list
Wow, that is about the same thing only yours shows more of the coin being struck. Spiffy! I did weigh mine but failed to write it down on the slip. If I remember correctly it came in around 3.04 so I considered it normal weight.
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 Posted 12/23/2022  03:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list
Thanks, I just wanted to confirm it wasn't a zincoln, though its pretty obviously not. I'm still a bit confused on this error. So, the brockage creating coin was an off-center die cap that then struck an off center planchet?
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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 Posted 12/23/2022  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list
Doubtful it was a die cap. Think of a planchet sitting under a struck coin almost of top of each other but offset just a little. Then slide them 40% onto the die chamber and give it a bang. The bottom coin will be like ours, while the top coin becomes a uniface double strike.
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 Posted 12/23/2022  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Willburton to your friends list
So the date was at the edge of the strike and the brockage didn't cover the whole obverse. Making it an off center strike with partial brockage. That's what I take from this. Awesome coins!
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 Posted 12/23/2022  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list
Yeah, off center strike with partial brockage is about right.
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 Posted 12/23/2022  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list
A struck coin would be wider than a planchet, so how could the design be centered inside these coins?
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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 Posted 12/23/2022  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list
I didn't take the time to get all the stuff just right, but this is pretty close to what the coin and planchet looked like looking down into the chamber if my visualization is correct.


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 Posted 12/23/2022  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list
Nice work TB, I can see it now. That looks right.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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 Posted 12/24/2022  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
Very nice. It's an "internal" partial brockage generated by an overlying broadstruck cent. The two coins were closely aligned in vertical space, aligned along the same horizontal axis, and protruded just about the same distance beyond the striking chamber. Very eye-catching.
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 Posted 12/24/2022  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list
Thanks Mike! I hadn't considered that the overlying coin was broadstruck, but I can see that being the case to create this one now that you better explained things. Always appreciate your contributions to helping fully understand these error coins.
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 Posted 12/24/2022  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list
Agree that is great info, thanks Mike.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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 Posted 12/25/2022  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add southsav to your friends list


Very neat and unusual!!

Question -

are these types of anomalies/errors found in bags of coins being searched? Obviously they can't be rolled
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 Posted 12/25/2022  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list
Pretty sure most coins like this are found in mint bags, but honestly it baffles me how some of the errors get from the mint into private hands.
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