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Bedrock of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
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Skitz, I'd be interested in hearing about the provenance of these coins and how you came to acquire them.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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New Member
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Honestly I was going threw this little collection of coins my grandfather had I guess since he was younger ( my mother's family is from north Carolina so I'm assuming he might of found them and just kept them well he passed a couple years back and just recently I decided to go threw it all and those two coins fell out of a little bag. I have some knowledge of coins so I knew exactly what it was but because it be like hitting the lottery I thought it might have been a replica but I weighed it and the pine tree schilling is 72 grains and I apologize to the moderator for posting more then one item
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Pillar of the Community
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Both are most likely cast counterfeits by the look of Them .
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Moderator
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 to the CCF I look forward to what our experts say. 
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Moderator
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 Are there any coin shops near you that you trust?  John1 
Edited by John1 01/12/2023 7:30 pm
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New Member
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Honestly no their all super shady n I don't think I can trust them.. do their probably fake I mean I dug a lil more research up n I'm not 100 on this but it looks dead on the line tree schilling NOE 1 Large planchet with bullets I mean every is indicating is legit but I'm not an expert and I was going to have a more hopeful response here but I guess I'll keep searching and hopefully when I find out if their fake it real I'll notify and update u all thank you for your input much respect to all of u
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Moderator
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Give it a little bit and other members will chime in. John1 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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They look like cast replicas to me.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
Edited by thq 01/13/2023 3:08 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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I'm not an expert on pine tree colonials but just the the fact yours is that round AND centered would indicate it's fake.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I agree with replicas. Noe-1 the middle of the E's are supposed to have a crossbar; no expert just looking at real ones. I think these were commonly sold in souvenir shops and grandpa may have picked it up at Williamsburg or similar. Check the edge for a seam. Have a coin shop or jeweler do an XRF on it to see if it's silver and then you'll know.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Noe 1 is the single most copied pine tree shilling. Check for a seam as already stated.
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Valued Member
United States
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I'm no expert but that is about the most perfectly round and centered Pine Tree I've ever seen. That is a little too much coincidence.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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One thing peculiar about this shilling is that it appears to have an upset rim, as if it had been through a Castaing machine. Hammered coins are flatter than this.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The basic design of the pine tree shilling is copied from a Noe-1 but the finer details are wrong. Check the edge for a casting seam.
Edited by lcutler 01/14/2023 04:24 am
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