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It's a good example of a foldover strike. They are known in every denomination from 1c - 50c. Such errors occur if a planchet enters the striking chamber knocked into a vertical position, if it enters spinning on edge, if it rolls into the striking chamber on edge, or if it's intercepted on edge while flying through the strike chamber. There is no reason to think it was "pre-folded". Pre-folding (probably intentional) is more likely in the case of higher denomination foldover strikes (25c and 50c), as its less likely that retraction of the hammer die generates enough clearance for a planchet to stand on edge.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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Great explanation Mike, Thanks
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Pillar of the Community
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Foldover strikes can affect any planchet or coin. Double-struck and triple-struck foldover strikes are known (foldover on the last strike). The fold can be symmetrical (axial) or highly asymmetrical paraxial). Finally, a coin struck on edge that fails to fold is kicked out of the striking chamber as an edge strike.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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Fascinating example - and appreciate Mike Diamond explanation.
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Pillar of the Community
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Trdhrdr, If you don't mind filling us in, how did you come across this coin? Great find either way. An auction, estate sale, estate cleanout, thrift store, etc?
Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups. We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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I'm mostly retired and buy/sell junk and antiques as a part time job. Most of the people in the estate sale business contact me if they come across something they know I'd be interested in. One was contacted by someone with an inherited collection & they referred them to me. Among many other things there were 2 binder pages mostly filled with errors. This is one of them.
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This is allI I have to say... 
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Very strange?!!!!!? Late on this post.
Is strange because an zinc core at this bend without heat will crack, and this it is no doubt. Any metallurgical person or studies will confirm me. Then I see it is plated also on bend?: how come on bending the plating Cu. will not crack? So was bend after the plating: between plating and strike and miss plating on the strike side.
I think this coin need forensic analyzes. It was strike after second quarter of 1982 and if we look at the mint chain of production I ask myself how can fall with this form in the striking chamber?
I will like to see the other side to analyze..
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Quote: I will like to see the other side to analyze.. I think all three sides are represented well. Thanks, Doug.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Remarkable coin for sure!
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@ Halo: I do not have those photos I talk about. Look better at the OP photos:!!!: same fold for Reverse and Observe LOL and no from side. Do you want to kill me?
Edited by silviosi 01/24/2023 9:28 pm
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Quote: Do you want to kill me? Would never consider that. Just trying to open eyes to see what I see, with the current images. Thanks, Doug.
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Very unique. I have many fold over dollar bills, but I understand the're quite common.
Edited by ijn1944 01/24/2023 9:42 pm
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@Doug: "You want to kill me" it is just an expression. OK maybe you do not know the history of those coins. Was first come in the market in 2020 from somewhere California and Arizona. Then spread to Texas and Kentucky. I have 'it in my hand some sample for forensic analyze. I made my report and transmit to the Law Enforcement of the Treasury and Reserve (my job). What happened after?!!!? No clue. What I have was simulated Mint Error.
Me I think that at the melting reject coins plants, not Mint facilities someone took some from bin and then simulate the error. It is my supposition which it is not official.
So this it is. Do not worry will be hard to kill an ex SP. OP. officer. LOL (JOKE) We are all friends here.
Edited by silviosi 01/24/2023 10:56 pm
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