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Lincoln Cent Statistics

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 Posted 03/07/2009  02:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
I have all of them and multiples of some of the tougher ones. For instance, I have a half roll of circulated 1911S cents, and four 1914D cents.

I also have some 1,250 different die varieties, 30-40 error coins, and a large sampling of educational examples such as elongated coins, counterstamps, Encased Cents, fake, altered, or counterfeit cents, and errors that aren't really errors.

Most of what I have was purchased through knowledge, studying, and 30 years of attending coin shows and gaining experience. I have been through more than 275 bags of wheat cents, and have been through at least that many memorial cents searching for gems in the rough.

Basically I'm ate up with it.
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 Posted 03/07/2009  03:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add manila galleon trade to your friends list

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fake, altered, or counterfeit cents, and errors that aren't really errors.


Hi Coppercoins,
I know what altered means but fake and counterfeit cents confuses me, are they not the same meaning? And errors that aren't really errors, are these the common struct on grease or damage cents? Correct my terminology if it is wrong (struct on grease?)
Thanks
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 Posted 03/07/2009  06:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add afernbaugh to your friends list
Yep, I have those 249 that were intentionally minted and some that are DDO, DDR, RPM,and Wide AM's. Chuck and Thad take Lincoln's to new and different levels than most collectors I know. The magnitude of Chuck's collection makes my brain freeze. I am such a simpleton....

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 Posted 03/07/2009  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list
I have 133 of the 140 wheats; I've been trying to fill in the early S-mint cents lately. I also have all of the memorials except for a few later date D-mint. The Denver coins take awhile to get east and I have been filling the later dates from pocket change. I am also still waiting to find a Philly mint 1999. The fact that I haven't seen one yet seems like a statistical outlier!

Good post!

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 Posted 03/07/2009  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matchbox to your friends list
Ken, which later Denver mint Lincoln cents are you missing?
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 Posted 03/07/2009  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rkp to your friends list
I am missing the big 4: 1909-S, 1909-S VDB, 1914-D, and 1931-S.
I think I will go for the 1931-S next.
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 Posted 03/07/2009  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
Yes, fake and counterfeit are actually the same thing. I generally separate them into 'fake' being those made that aren't made to fool people into thinking they are real, and counterfeit being those made to fool people into thinking they are real. I guess a better word for my 'fake' would be 'fantasy' strikes.

Your terminology is close, however 'struct' is not a word at all. It would be 'struck'. And the grease cents are called ' Struck Through Grease'. The actual error classification is 'struck through' and there are hundreds of different things coins can be struck through, the most common of which being grease. I've seen staples, wire, thread, feeder fingers, other coins, etc., etc..

The errors that aren't really errors are pretty much anything that is not a mint error but would fool some novice collectors. Ground down coins, acid eaten coins, bent, mutilated, defaced coins...just about anything.

Hmm...'brain freeze' - funny. I've been working on this over 30 years now, and hopefully have at least another 30 years to continue working on it. Once I am gone, I hope there would be a good museum to donate the whole pile to that could properly showcase the collection. I estimate its current value at around $100K, and would estimate the value of what I intend to finish by the time I'm gone at around $250K.
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 Posted 03/07/2009  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list
Matchbox -

I am missing 84-D, 86-D, 91-D, 03-D, 04-D, 05-D, and 06-D.
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 Posted 03/07/2009  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list

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I have all of them and multiples of some of the tougher ones. For instance, I have a half roll of circulated 1911S cents, and four 1914D cents.

I also have some 1,250 different die varieties, 30-40 error coins, and a large sampling of educational examples such as elongated coins, counterstamps, Encased Cents, fake, altered, or counterfeit cents, and errors that aren't really errors.

Most of what I have was purchased through knowledge, studying, and 30 years of attending coin shows and gaining experience. I have been through more than 275 bags of wheat cents, and have been through at least that many memorial cents searching for gems in the rough.

Basically I'm ate up with it.


And you claim to not be a coin collector! OK, we'll just call them research pieces!
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 Posted 03/07/2009  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tim Stroud to your friends list

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I hope there would be a good museum to donate the whole pile to that could properly showcase the collection.


Immediately after this post I am heading out Lowes to order the materials I'll need to build a brand new LMC museum just for that collection.
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Thanks coppercoin, very educational.
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 Posted 03/07/2009  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list
I lack all the older coins and most of the varieties but I've got all the memorials in superb gem. Indeed, I've got most of them in superb gem PL and several that look like branch mint proofs including the '67, '87-D, '88-P, '88-D and '90-D. I think there are a couple others as well. My collection is pretty weak on later dates though.
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 Posted 03/07/2009  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list

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I'm such a statistician! I like making lists and figuring out numbers. Correct me if I'm wrong with these numbers, but here I go with Lincoln Cent statistics.

There have been 140 wheat cents minted from 1909 - 1958. These include Philadelphia, Denver and San Francisco mints of all years.

From 1959-2008 there have been 109 different Lincoln Memorial Cents minted.

So there has been a total of 249 different Lincoln Cents minted from 1909-2008.

In 2009 there will be 4 commemorative Lincoln Cents, then starting with 2010 there will be a new reverse so 2008 is the end of the Lincoln Memorials.

Out of these 249 Lincoln Cents I have 221, and will get 11 of my missing 28 cents on the next trip to the coin shop (they are all early Wheat cents). The final 17 are the "costly" ones which will appear in due time.

Does anyone have ALL 249?


What is the total if you add in all the proofs?
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 Posted 03/08/2009  12:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matchbox to your friends list
KenKat, message me. I'm under the 50 post thing.


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 Posted 03/08/2009  12:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matchbox to your friends list
Yikes bherring1964! I don't know that answer. You'll have to ask someone more knowledgeable than me. Guess I was talking about the change you would find in your pocket through the years.


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