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I am mostly seeing something on liberty. John1  |
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The glare needs some taming but the separation in "WE" and "TRUST" appear promising to me.
If you could work on your lighting a bit and post up some improved images, this might settle the issue.
You have consensus @ LIBERTY & WE as promising.
Take some time and improve those images. Lighting can really affect what others see.
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Looks like the normal master hub doubling issue:  Yes, the proof coins also used were MDD dies as well. They are common, and not a premium for these. 50% of all the cents that year were from MDD dies and the other 50% were normal/doubled dies that year, from all three mints. Edited by coop
02/26/2023 3:28 pm
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Wow! 50% I have a lot of older proof sets and one year of the 1972, so there is a 50% chance I have a common 50% MDD cent in the set. Thanks for setting that record straight because there was a 50% chance I would have gotten a heart palpitation from being really exited when getting to inspect that years proof set. By the way coop I love your YouTube channel, been going through very slowly on the vids after joining.
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And what exactly is MDD. Please school me. Not a familiar acronym to me.
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Oh, I get it now, Master die doubling. Is that a common occurrence on this particular year?
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Is MDD Master Die Doublig?, would not all of the coins from this die exhibit the same characteristics? Defects in the master die should appear on every coin struck from it, correct? All the way down to the working die. Is this a common anomoly? Where can I reference this information?
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It looks like some separation to me on some of the devices (date and WE) but the MM location doesn't match.
Yours seems to be much further south.
Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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Their is another DDO for a Proof cent, 005 but the seperation lines on the script didn't match as well as DDO-001. |
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Quote:
Is MDD Master Die Doublig?, would not all of the coins from this die exhibit the same characteristics? Defects in the master die should appear on every coin struck from it, correct? All the way down to the working die. Is this a common anomoly? Where can I reference this information? Dowhat, scroll all the way to the bottom. It affected P, D and S coins and you will have a harder time finding one without it, than with it. There were two master dies for this year and as Wexler states, 60 to 70 percent, were from this master. LINK https://doubleddie.com/384301.html-makecents-
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Bedrock of the Community
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50% of the cents that year had dies that had this die creation error from all three mints. Why do 50%?  Note the steps of die creation: Master Hub (only one made normally) Master die (Only two made) So if one was doubled, 50% of the coins struck that year could have been affected. Working Hubs if 50% of these were affected, it would pass this on down the line. Working dies could also have 50% affected. Thus why I mentioned 50% of the coins could be affected. |
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So There are 3 million plus 1972 S Proof made by a special polished Die set. The web site at Copper Coins shows listing for the s proof Lincoln Cent which I used to look at my cent. Were their two sets of Dies used to produce such a limited run? Do they use a special planchet for proofs? I guess I am trying to say is are we apples to apples here or are their apples and oranges comparison in the mix? I'm confused because I see seperation lines on the script of my cent. |
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Iirc proof strikes are limited to, I want to say 3000 strikes. And they are special planchets.
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coop, I assumed that the 60 to 70 percent number, that Wexler mentions, is because the 2nd master, that had the doubling on it, was made and put into use in April, of that year, thus, only a third into the year, when it was introduced into production. Just going by what Wexler stated though, was not there.  It logically made sense to me though, if that was the case and the production of cents were similar, throughout the year. -makecents-
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